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Mizuno RB Tour and RB Tour X Golf Ball Review Thread
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I’m on a self ordained week long break from anything over a 1/2 swing, but, I’m going to get out and chip and putt a little today. Might also put a sleeve into the hands of my 1 bag and see what he thinks.
Okay, got out to play 9 holes today.
I lost one ball on the 6th hole. I was just about to take some pictures of it, because I had a feeling I could lose in on hole 6 or 7, but I inspected it. Very minimal scratching, no scuffs. Check out the live round thread. I put it through some bad, harsh lies.
The ball is very impressive. Quite responsive. Plenty long, feels good off of the club face on full swings. I think it really shines on 100 yards and in. It comes off the club smooth. I hit 3 or 4 pitch shots today that were about 5-8 yards too long. A little bit to get used to, but they felt amazing at contact
Ball feels good off of the putter. Durability seems on par with the rest of the major brands' premier balls
Got some bite back on the 9th hole, so the ball is seems to offer adequate spin.
Not much more to say at the moment. I hope to swing the club a little better, but I am very happy with ball at the moment, especially at the price point.
I think it is neck in neck with any of the OEM's premier ball
I lost one ball on the 6th hole. I was just about to take some pictures of it, because I had a feeling I could lose in on hole 6 or 7, but I inspected it. Very minimal scratching, no scuffs. Check out the live round thread. I put it through some bad, harsh lies.
The ball is very impressive. Quite responsive. Plenty long, feels good off of the club face on full swings. I think it really shines on 100 yards and in. It comes off the club smooth. I hit 3 or 4 pitch shots today that were about 5-8 yards too long. A little bit to get used to, but they felt amazing at contact
Ball feels good off of the putter. Durability seems on par with the rest of the major brands' premier balls
Got some bite back on the 9th hole, so the ball is seems to offer adequate spin.
Not much more to say at the moment. I hope to swing the club a little better, but I am very happy with ball at the moment, especially at the price point.
I think it is neck in neck with any of the OEM's premier ball
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Did a little putting on the Puttout mat on my lunch break today. I just wanted to see how much of a difference I could tell putting the RB Tour and Q Star Tour side by side. The QST definitely has a slightly softer feel to it, but rolling them side by side, it's not a huge difference. I also brought out a Z Star XV that I had in the bag. The RB Tour isn't clicky off the face like the XV. The XV feels pretty firm to me, but I would say the RB Tour feels soft, but solid, if that makes sense. Whereas the QST I would just call soft.
I also went back and looked at my putting stats from Sunday. I 2-putted 16 holes and had a 1-putt and a 3-putt. That's the most consistent I've been with the putter in awhile.
I also went back and looked at my putting stats from Sunday. I 2-putted 16 holes and had a 1-putt and a 3-putt. That's the most consistent I've been with the putter in awhile.
Yea, soft but solid is a good description of what I perceive as well
Spent some dedicated time with these on the practice green after the round yesterday. I definitely prefer the X. Not just because I chipped a bunch of those in (seriously the score like six to zero), but it spoke to getting my expected results more with it. Like I said I could play either one around the greens, but the little things the the X are nice.
Ok, I finally was able to sneak out of work and get a round in. First off the course closed it's range for overseeding so there was no warmup which is bad for me. Also there is water everywhere so I did a pick and choose on where I hit the ball.
Putting - The greens were shaggy so I was not expecting to roll anything in. I am not one to comment on clickiness and feel off the putter. To me it sounded the same and felt the same off the putter as the yellow Pro V1x I was also hitting today. Really not big change and I didn't expect any change with putting.
Chipping - Again I didn't expect to see much here and I didn't. Very similar performance to Pro V1x which is not a bad thing. Again I have to mention the 2 9's I played were coming out of overseed at different times. Everything is shaggy so there were no tight lies to be had. I got extra roll on everything because there was no clean contact out there.
Pitching - Here is where I started to notice a difference. I am not worried about spin yet but the higher pitches I was throwing around were stopping pretty quick. My low pitches still need some work. I started to feel the difference between the 2 balls here. The RB Tour X still feels softer. It is not near as soft as the original one from what I remember but it was pretty good. The last hole I dumped 3 RBTX on the ground after I hit my "official" pitch and all 3 were much closer than the 1st. Maybe I learned something but they felt great and I could get more aggressive with going at the pin.
Irons - Full iron swings were nice. I did hit multiple 9i and they were all similar distances. Way too early to read into iron consistency but I liked it. Again soft feeling.
Driver - I hit driver with the RBTX on 3 holes where I was pretty sure I wasn't going to lose them.
They felt great off the driver face and did what I expected them to do. I didn't go full throttle on them because I am trying to actually hit FW. I like what I saw but they were short. Again no warm up and not wanting to lose the ball played a part here. I will get to actual speeds coming up.
Durability - This is the biggest thing for me. I really liked the older version of the RBTX except for the cover durability. For the most part I only used 1 ball today except for the last hole pitch a thon. I can see a couple of blemishes but if I tried to take a picture of them you wouldn't see them. They would not stop me from using the ball again in the next round. That is 1000% better.
This is only the first round and I hadn't played in a couple of weeks and no warm up so I didn't attack anything. I want to get on a course I can attack more and play on actual trimmed golf courses so I can see how these balls react to tight lies and winter greens. More to come but so far from the small sample size I like what I am seeing. Not ball change imminent yet but there is a conversation.
Putting - The greens were shaggy so I was not expecting to roll anything in. I am not one to comment on clickiness and feel off the putter. To me it sounded the same and felt the same off the putter as the yellow Pro V1x I was also hitting today. Really not big change and I didn't expect any change with putting.
Chipping - Again I didn't expect to see much here and I didn't. Very similar performance to Pro V1x which is not a bad thing. Again I have to mention the 2 9's I played were coming out of overseed at different times. Everything is shaggy so there were no tight lies to be had. I got extra roll on everything because there was no clean contact out there.
Pitching - Here is where I started to notice a difference. I am not worried about spin yet but the higher pitches I was throwing around were stopping pretty quick. My low pitches still need some work. I started to feel the difference between the 2 balls here. The RB Tour X still feels softer. It is not near as soft as the original one from what I remember but it was pretty good. The last hole I dumped 3 RBTX on the ground after I hit my "official" pitch and all 3 were much closer than the 1st. Maybe I learned something but they felt great and I could get more aggressive with going at the pin.
Irons - Full iron swings were nice. I did hit multiple 9i and they were all similar distances. Way too early to read into iron consistency but I liked it. Again soft feeling.
Driver - I hit driver with the RBTX on 3 holes where I was pretty sure I wasn't going to lose them.
They felt great off the driver face and did what I expected them to do. I didn't go full throttle on them because I am trying to actually hit FW. I like what I saw but they were short. Again no warm up and not wanting to lose the ball played a part here. I will get to actual speeds coming up.Durability - This is the biggest thing for me. I really liked the older version of the RBTX except for the cover durability. For the most part I only used 1 ball today except for the last hole pitch a thon. I can see a couple of blemishes but if I tried to take a picture of them you wouldn't see them. They would not stop me from using the ball again in the next round. That is 1000% better.
This is only the first round and I hadn't played in a couple of weeks and no warm up so I didn't attack anything. I want to get on a course I can attack more and play on actual trimmed golf courses so I can see how these balls react to tight lies and winter greens. More to come but so far from the small sample size I like what I am seeing. Not ball change imminent yet but there is a conversation.
I found a couple screencaps from maybe the first time I hit these indoor. Towards the end of last month. GC2. This was an example of them with a 6 iron on similar strikes.
And the ones from when I hit them with that same 56* Vokey as I showed in the recent one. Mostly the same with spin difference just a little less. 10,655 rpm (Tour X) and 10,195 rpm (Tour).
Here the comparison from the other day, and I added in the totals that weren't showing for some reason
but the detailed breakdown of those numbers is in the vid. Small sample on both with the wedges, but there's definitely separation there.
And the ones from when I hit them with that same 56* Vokey as I showed in the recent one. Mostly the same with spin difference just a little less. 10,655 rpm (Tour X) and 10,195 rpm (Tour).
Here the comparison from the other day, and I added in the totals that weren't showing for some reason
but the detailed breakdown of those numbers is in the vid. Small sample on both with the wedges, but there's definitely separation there.
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I went to the range yesterday and made sure to spend some time at the practice green and the putting green with the RB Tour. I hit quite a few chips and pitches into the practice green, comparing the RB Tour and Q Star Tour. Basically, confirming what I was seeing on the course. I was using my 58* and when hitting high pitch shots from about 30 yards, trying to get it to land soft, the QST would hit and release 1-2 feet. The RB Tour would hit and spin just enough to stop about a foot behind where it landed. I did have some that I didn't catch as cleanly with both and they obviously released more, though the RB Tour released a little less. It's not a huge difference between the two, but it does give me the feeling of having a bit more control with the RB Tour.
On chips, I like to play for some roll out and I was able to keep both within about 5-6 feet of the cup from about 50-60 feet away. I had a sleeve of each ball and tried to hit the exact same shot with each. Proximity to the hole was about the same with both, with the QST usually stopping just beyond the hole and the RB Tour stopping just short of it. So, not something that would sway me either way here.
I'm really looking forward to getting some more time on the course with these. Hopefully, I'll have a halfway decent swing next time out.
On chips, I like to play for some roll out and I was able to keep both within about 5-6 feet of the cup from about 50-60 feet away. I had a sleeve of each ball and tried to hit the exact same shot with each. Proximity to the hole was about the same with both, with the QST usually stopping just beyond the hole and the RB Tour stopping just short of it. So, not something that would sway me either way here.
I'm really looking forward to getting some more time on the course with these. Hopefully, I'll have a halfway decent swing next time out.
@OldandStiff not sure this is the place - or if a place for this question even exists...can you do any comparing of these to the ones you got last week (I won't say anything out loud)? Your game is way different than mine, I suspect I would do better with something in the mid range (Q-Star for example) area of golf balls but I do need spin as an old guy who does not have the speed of you young'uns. Eager to hear about that comparison - if possible without pissing anyone here off - and if this not a good place/question mods feel free to ax this post.
Haha. I have done a couple quick compares on course and monitor. Those balls are a long way off though, and a little different price point. I do think the Tour vs. V1 comparison and discussion will be an interesting one when the time comes though.@OldandStiff not sure this is the place - or if a place for this question even exists...can you do any comparing of these to the ones you got last week (I won't say anything out loud)? Your game is way different than mine, I suspect I would do better with something in the mid range (Q-Star for example) area of golf balls but I do need spin as an old guy who does not have the speed of you young'uns. Eager to hear about that comparison - if possible without pissing anyone here off - and if this not a good place/question mods feel free to ax this post.
Maxfli might be the most common response I've heard the last month or more on why the supposed price of these doesn't move them (the person I'm talking to). Well it sounds like the gap there has shrank considerably. Not that I'm saying they should be compared to begin with.
I went out and played 9 today against my better judgement. Body was sore and I could have used the rest but I wanted to get some intentional comparisons with PV1 (gamer) and RB Tour and X around the greens. I played and scored my gamer ball but after hitting it I also would drop a Tour and X for Pitches/Chips/putts.
I don’t have easy access to a launch monitor so I figure short game stuff if a good niche of me to carve for reviewing these balls.
Tour felt and acted most like my PV1. It does feel a bit more solid(?) not sure how to explain it but it feels more dense. Not the cover the actual ball. I get very similar rollout on chips. So much so that on #14 I chipped on from around 20y and hit my PV1 on the roll. A couple of pitches from around 80-100 finished shorter than PV1 but that could have easily been me and my swing. I had a terrible ball striking day with everything other than a wedge.
Tour X is really fun on pitch shots. I was able to get it to stop on a dime a couple times. That gives me the confidence to really go after the hole. Chips were good too. Checked up a little more and didn’t rollout quite as much but maybe only a foot or two. Felt a bit harder obviously and still had that ‘solid’ feeling to it. I’m not sure I love the higher launch windows I get with it. I feel like I’ve discussed that before.
Both felt good with the putter. I tend to favor the softer feeling of the tour rather than the x.
I need to sort some things with my full swing before I put them back in play.
I’m pretty sure they release this week or next and I’ll be picking up another dozen Tours.
I don’t have easy access to a launch monitor so I figure short game stuff if a good niche of me to carve for reviewing these balls.
Tour felt and acted most like my PV1. It does feel a bit more solid(?) not sure how to explain it but it feels more dense. Not the cover the actual ball. I get very similar rollout on chips. So much so that on #14 I chipped on from around 20y and hit my PV1 on the roll. A couple of pitches from around 80-100 finished shorter than PV1 but that could have easily been me and my swing. I had a terrible ball striking day with everything other than a wedge.
Tour X is really fun on pitch shots. I was able to get it to stop on a dime a couple times. That gives me the confidence to really go after the hole. Chips were good too. Checked up a little more and didn’t rollout quite as much but maybe only a foot or two. Felt a bit harder obviously and still had that ‘solid’ feeling to it. I’m not sure I love the higher launch windows I get with it. I feel like I’ve discussed that before.
Both felt good with the putter. I tend to favor the softer feeling of the tour rather than the x.
I need to sort some things with my full swing before I put them back in play.
I’m pretty sure they release this week or next and I’ll be picking up another dozen Tours.
today was a tough day but i did some fun things with this ball. it did everything i asked of it.
but i did have to relegate two to the shag bag after greenside bunker shots. it’s the only place i’m seeing serious gashing of the cover. everywhere else the durability is excellent.
but i did have to relegate two to the shag bag after greenside bunker shots. it’s the only place i’m seeing serious gashing of the cover. everywhere else the durability is excellent.
But if you were to compare them, what would that data look like?
Maxfli at 2 for $60 or 4 for $105 is still considerably cheaper than $42.99 eac. I think it's valid and similar to buying decisions people have when they consider DTC brands.
It is. As far as data comparison, .. I mean I like data, but ball stuff indoors is just a starting point for me. Gives the broad strokes and then it has to be taken outdoors to get true performance. Unles one is just plainly deficient in some way in comparison, there's no real winner indoors. There's similar, or, not, and lots of different stops between. And the best of only which one suits anyone's needs best. I've been meaning to get some data on some Maxfli for me though, so maybe I will say some point this winter. Keeping myself on a swing restriction right now though, so it might be a bit.But if you were to compare them, what would that data look like?
I think it's valid and similar to buying decisions people have when they consider DTC brands.
Launch is set for 11/1/2022 for the new balls.
Wasn’t able to get on quad Tuesday but got out for a little putting/short game testing today. I was recently fit into ProV1X by a titleist fitter (15 minute testing) and I have been playing Chrome Soft X for the last several month so going to test them against the RB Tour X.
started with a chip from a couple yards off the green in some light rough. Standard chip for me where I plan to fly the ball about 70% of the way there then release to the hole.
chip shot.
Hit 3 with each ball. Titleist and callaway reacted very similarly, maybe a touch more roll out with the CSX than the ProV1x but the RB Tour X SPINS. It was wild how quick this ball checked up. I used a 56* Cleveland CBX for this test.Has about a year of use and was set to be replaced anytime but will wait for the end of the year for that.
then went to another area around the green where I would be short sided going downhill to the pin. I grabbed my 60 full face zip core wedge for this one. For this I only wanted to carry the ball about halfway to the hole as it would go down the slope to the pin.
again the titleist and callaway released about the same. The RB Tour X checked quickly. I caught one low and it flew about 90% of the distance but hit once and bit. Ended up about 1’ past the cup.
the last round I landed all 3 shots within about a foot and the callaway released about a foot past the titleist and about 10 feet past the mizuno. Around the greens I don’t recall ever seeing a ball spin like this. Will get it the course Saturday but there will be some getting used to.
finally got on the green with a flat stick and rolled a few just to see how they felt. Mizuno had the most muted thunk (used my Toulon Palm Beach), callaway was the most high pitched.
that sort of thing doesn’t have a lot of bearing on me, but want to pass along for those that are sensitive to it.
very curious to see this ball on quad.
started with a chip from a couple yards off the green in some light rough. Standard chip for me where I plan to fly the ball about 70% of the way there then release to the hole.
chip shot.
Hit 3 with each ball. Titleist and callaway reacted very similarly, maybe a touch more roll out with the CSX than the ProV1x but the RB Tour X SPINS. It was wild how quick this ball checked up. I used a 56* Cleveland CBX for this test.Has about a year of use and was set to be replaced anytime but will wait for the end of the year for that.
then went to another area around the green where I would be short sided going downhill to the pin. I grabbed my 60 full face zip core wedge for this one. For this I only wanted to carry the ball about halfway to the hole as it would go down the slope to the pin.
again the titleist and callaway released about the same. The RB Tour X checked quickly. I caught one low and it flew about 90% of the distance but hit once and bit. Ended up about 1’ past the cup.
the last round I landed all 3 shots within about a foot and the callaway released about a foot past the titleist and about 10 feet past the mizuno. Around the greens I don’t recall ever seeing a ball spin like this. Will get it the course Saturday but there will be some getting used to.
finally got on the green with a flat stick and rolled a few just to see how they felt. Mizuno had the most muted thunk (used my Toulon Palm Beach), callaway was the most high pitched.
that sort of thing doesn’t have a lot of bearing on me, but want to pass along for those that are sensitive to it.
very curious to see this ball on quad.
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First full round where I only used the Mizuno ball today. One ball would have made it through the entire round but on hole 16 on the green I look down and see this nasty scratch. Durability is light years better though as this is the only ball I used up until that point and I used it earlier this week as I snuck out for a round. Also I must add that for some reason I decided to start hitting way right into a bunch of rock areas. This ball was not given the tender treatment. So I say that durability is very much in line with other premium golf balls that I have played.
Good morning all - finally got a chance to get out and play this weekend. Seriously might be one of the last outings of the year up here. Played the new RB tour and have a bit of feedback on it.
1. So much better out of the box than the old ball. The new dimple pattern looks as a normal high level golf ball. The old ball threw that into question as it was just odd looking. Knowing that the PV1 and PV1x was used as the benchmark, Mizuno has done a great job from a visual and outer coving feel and apperance.
2. The flight of the ball is that of the PV1, a bit lower and spins a bit less. Distance wise, I‘m not fully confident that it travels as far as the PV1 or the CS. Last round I played the RBTour the front 9 and the PV1 on the back 9. There was a noticeable difference in the distance off the tee of almost a 1/2 a club. Now that could be me and my swing but I did feel there is a bit of difference there. I do believe the spin on approach and off the tee is very good. I could make the ball check up on chip shots and on approach shots the ball wouldn’t roll out. Hit, spin and check within a few feet of where it landed. (Understand I hit a particularly high ball and back spin is normal for me.) So to say the least, I was happy with the spin and holding of the greens from the RBTour.
3. Durability - The durability is still a bit of an issue I believe. within the 1st 2 holes that I played yesterday, I my ball had developed a cut after 1 wedge shot and 1 8-iron shot. Changed out the ball and later on the next ball developed a some cut marks from striking with my irons or wedges. Were they as bad as the previous ball? Nope. But they were evident which in turn caused a bit of question it’s durabilty.
Overall - the ball is much superior to the old ball. Not even a small question about it. It will be one that people will check out due to the price point and I believe it will perform well when called upon.
I’ll play again with the ball and give my insights down the road.
1. So much better out of the box than the old ball. The new dimple pattern looks as a normal high level golf ball. The old ball threw that into question as it was just odd looking. Knowing that the PV1 and PV1x was used as the benchmark, Mizuno has done a great job from a visual and outer coving feel and apperance.
2. The flight of the ball is that of the PV1, a bit lower and spins a bit less. Distance wise, I‘m not fully confident that it travels as far as the PV1 or the CS. Last round I played the RBTour the front 9 and the PV1 on the back 9. There was a noticeable difference in the distance off the tee of almost a 1/2 a club. Now that could be me and my swing but I did feel there is a bit of difference there. I do believe the spin on approach and off the tee is very good. I could make the ball check up on chip shots and on approach shots the ball wouldn’t roll out. Hit, spin and check within a few feet of where it landed. (Understand I hit a particularly high ball and back spin is normal for me.) So to say the least, I was happy with the spin and holding of the greens from the RBTour.
3. Durability - The durability is still a bit of an issue I believe. within the 1st 2 holes that I played yesterday, I my ball had developed a cut after 1 wedge shot and 1 8-iron shot. Changed out the ball and later on the next ball developed a some cut marks from striking with my irons or wedges. Were they as bad as the previous ball? Nope. But they were evident which in turn caused a bit of question it’s durabilty.
Overall - the ball is much superior to the old ball. Not even a small question about it. It will be one that people will check out due to the price point and I believe it will perform well when called upon.
I’ll play again with the ball and give my insights down the road.
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Keep those reviews rolling.
So far the ongoing theme is that durability is light year's ahead of the last version.
So far the ongoing theme is that durability is light year's ahead of the last version.
Played again yesterday with the RBTour. Overall played well. Had a few loose shots here and there but overall good.
One thing that I really noticed with the RBTour from yesterday was its ability to cut through the wind. It was pretty windy yesterday and in the past, the ball would get caught and balloon up or just feel like it couldn't fight through any breeze. Yesterday, I felt confident that the ball would work through the wind in the direction that I intended. Has to be due to the changes in the dimples as well as the surface.
In addition, I'm still impressed with the stopping power on the greens. Ball didn't roll out and sat a few feet from where it landed on the green initially. No durability issues to speak of from yesterday. Ball handled everything really well. Even backed a few shots up and didn't see any cuts or scuffs on the ball.
Good day yesterday with the ball.
One thing that I really noticed with the RBTour from yesterday was its ability to cut through the wind. It was pretty windy yesterday and in the past, the ball would get caught and balloon up or just feel like it couldn't fight through any breeze. Yesterday, I felt confident that the ball would work through the wind in the direction that I intended. Has to be due to the changes in the dimples as well as the surface.
In addition, I'm still impressed with the stopping power on the greens. Ball didn't roll out and sat a few feet from where it landed on the green initially. No durability issues to speak of from yesterday. Ball handled everything really well. Even backed a few shots up and didn't see any cuts or scuffs on the ball.
Good day yesterday with the ball.
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Playing tomorrow and looking forward to getting these back in play. I might do 9 holes with each model for review purposes but so far I definitely prefer the X for my game. Really has everything that I want in a ball. Mizuno is now absolutely competing with the big names in the ball space.
I'd love to hear about spin and distance compared to the previous version (and for that matter other balls). I recall both having improved, but then I think I saw some numbers and they seemed high? Could be my old man brain.