- May 10, 2010
- Reaction score
- New Mexico
You have to remember that Cleveland as a company is not allowed to manufacture the zip grooves anymore and since the company oversold (sold more than expected) of the original, they wanted to create another model. Until I try it, I wont decide if it is the same or not. Lots of clubs look the same, but subtle tweaks are the difference. We will see with this one too. Could be just the groove thing, or could be some other changes.Other than aesthetics, does the new Niblick boast any new performance or design features that make it perform better than the original? The new Niblick! Now with no Zip Grooves!
Sarcasm aside, I have the old Niblick 49 and it is one of my go-to clubs. Other than the cool new look, I can't see a lot of reasons to buy the new model. Thoughts?
Most amatuers leave chips and pitches short. So if the new grooves let the ball release a little it may get you closer to the hole.I wonder if conforming grooves on the Niblick might be a good thing for most casual golfers. I've seen articles saying ameteurs average closer to the hole with conforming grooves because the ball travels up the clubface resulting in higher flying shots with less spin, and it's easier to control distance with height rather than spin. Personally, there are times when I catch a chip with the Niblick a certain way and the ball pops out with more spin than normal, causing me to be unexpectedly short.
That makes perect sense. I use the 37 mostly on full shots or when I am on the fringe of a huge green. I love it because its so easy to swing, but it does not have the same stopping power as the 42.The 37* Niblick was likely dropped for 2011 because without the high spin offered by the Zip Grooves, the 37* just rolls out too much when chipping of fast greens. In fact, some Niblick Posters had complained about excessive rollout of the olfer 37* Niblick loft with the high-spin Zip Grooves. Seems that loft works best on the soft/slow greens of desert courses rather than on typical courses with faster greens. While ithe 37* does have its fans, it did not sell as well as the other lofts, even though 37* is considered the traditional "Chipper"loft.
The new, (2011) grooves and lower spin rate would only increase complaints about excessive rollout while usiing for the 37* loft. That, combinined with its being the least popular Niblick explains why Cleveland has discontinued the 37* Niblick for 2011.
Keep in mind that the new grooves, (and lower spin), apply to ALL the other lofts too. (The 42*, 49*, 56* lofts which ARE offered in 2011). All the Niblicks with the Tour conforming grooves have less spin than the older Niblick models.
May want to try a softer covered (Tour-type) golf ball if you are putting new lower spin grooves in the bag whether theay are 2011 Niblicks or 2011 Wedges. A higher spinning ball will have more impact on spin rate than going to the the DG Spinner Wedge, which is really just a softer than standard shaft flex.
I'll have the 49* in hand once it ships with my mashies and 4W from Blind9. Can't wait, the look is what got me on this one. I love my 2010 49* but this one just looks so much better to my eye. We shall see!Anyone try these out yet? Curious how people feel about them to the original model? Are they same distance on full swings?
Not at all. I am going to pull the head and weigh the two though because I'm really curious about it. I shall report back! muahahaha!Man, I just had a moment! That is a beautiful club!!!!!!! I'm really anxious to see how this performs for you. I'm a fan and depending what happens in the next few weeks may for the 49*. Does the weight feel any different at all?
Not at all. I am going to pull the head and weigh the two though because I'm really curious about it. I shall report back! muahahaha!