Oh I know. I've been trying to just get the time in general. A 4 month old at home is hurting the 4 hours + I would need away from home at the momentJust go out and play.... a few years ago we had that big blizzard in march (S.E. PA) so i drove 3 hours to find a course in Delaware (Bear something)that had no snow. It was perfect had the course to myself played 36 in less time than i took me to drive there. Yes it was cold but so what.