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Playing partner conundrum, advice needed

ULEWZ

ULEWZ

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Here is the deal: I like playing with my new partner (found him at the golf course and he is fun to play with), but he can be late sometimes, and frequently cancels with barely enough time for me to call the starter window and cancel without a charge.

I can deal with all that but I noticed a no-show charge on my CC.
After some research I realized it was the day my playing partner showed up late and needed to be escorted to meet up with me on the 2nd tee.
He made a quick pass through to the starter window to say he is there, and we played on. Note: I always place our tee time nearest to my wife's groups tee time so we only take one car.
My wife only had a threesome that day, but they mistakenly replace my playing partners name with her 3rd player.
I sent and email to the GM explaining all this, and he claims my partner was grouped with my wife's group, and my tee time partner was a no show, so since I booked the tee time, I am on the hook for the no-show charge (he is not a very nice guy, so talking to him is almost pointless).
My playing partner claims that since he is listed as showing up, even though he did not play with my wife's group, (he played with me), he is not liable for the no-show fee.
So now I am stuck with the no-show charge ($61 dollars).

What would you do with this:
Find a new playing partner?
Eat the cost and hope it does not happen again?
Have him schedule his own tee times after I tell him when I am playing so I am not on the hook again?
 
I would just inform them when your playing and have them schedule their own tee times. You don't need to be financially responsible for others who have already shown a lack of accountability or respect with last minute cancellations.
 
Two part answer:
1. Have him schedule himself going forward. This way is not working and this won’t be the last time it’s an issue.
2. Dispute the charge with your cc company. Being charged correctly should not hinge on whether the GM is an ass or not.
 
Your partner's lack of willingness to take responsibility and make you whole would cause me to dump him. If you decide that is too harsh then definitely have him schedule his own times, which would also mean eating the cost.
 
JetSpeed said:
2. Dispute the charge with your cc company. Being charged correctly should not hinge on whether the GM is an ass or not.
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This.

There almost nothing in the world that's worse than a late golf partner. Except pickles.

And depending on how your club is organized I'd take the issue to the next Board of Directors meeting. The mistake was understandable (and ultimately your golf partner's fault) but just the same, the GM should fix it. I don't think I'd want to be a member there.
 
Definitely agree with the others that I would no longer take financial responsibility for the guy's unreliability. Have him book his own time in the future and dispute the charge on your CC.

I generally book the tee times for the group and the first time someone burns me with a no-show would be the last time they are invited. Luckily, it hasn't happened yet in 4 years of me running the group.
 
ULEWZ said:
Here is the deal: I like playing with my new partner (found him at the golf course and he is fun to play with), but he can be late sometimes, and frequently cancels with barely enough time for me to call the starter window and cancel without a charge.

I can deal with all that but I noticed a no-show charge on my CC.
After some research I realized it was the day my playing partner showed up late and needed to be escorted to meet up with me on the 2nd tee.
He made a quick pass through to the starter window to say he is there, and we played on. Note: I always place our tee time nearest to my wife's groups tee time so we only take one car.
My wife only had a threesome that day, but they mistakenly replace my playing partners name with her 3rd player.
I sent and email to the GM explaining all this, and he claims my partner was grouped with my wife's group, and my tee time partner was a no show, so since I booked the tee time, I am on the hook for the no-show charge (he is not a very nice guy, so talking to him is almost pointless).
My playing partner claims that since he is listed as showing up, even though he did not play with my wife's group, (he played with me), he is not liable for the no-show fee.
So now I am stuck with the no-show charge ($61 dollars).

What would you do with this:
Find a new playing partner?
Eat the cost and hope it does not happen again?
Have him schedule his own tee times after I tell him when I am playing so I am not on the hook again?
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I'd go with the last, no sense in having you responsible for him.
 
Let me see if I’ve got this right.
  • The late charge was for your partner showing up late
  • The GM won’t waive the late fee
  • Your playing partner knows you’ve been charged the late fee
  • He’s not lifted one finger to intervene on your behalf with the GM or anyone else
  • He’s said he’s not responsible, but is okay with you being on the hook for this
If this is all correct, I think you’ve learned something very significant about the immaturity and lack of character of your playing partner.

What you do with that knowledge is up to you. But you should not ignore what you’ve learned.
 
We have a guy in our group that schedules all of our tee times. It’s a huge help, and I go way WAY out of my way to make sure he never regrets it. If I have to cancel I make sure it’s before the 24 hour window and I make sure I remove my name myself, either via the app or a phone call. Then I send out a message on our group text telling everyone I won’t be there and that I’ve removed myself. In a few years of doing this now I’ve never hosed anyone or made them regret helping me. It’s not difficult. Just takes a little common courtesy.
 
I’d dump him, but breaking up is hard to do.

Being constantly late for anything is a huge pet peeve of mine. I won’t even get into sticking you with the $61 part.
 
Find a new partner. Unreliable as to being on time and unwilling to take account for the fact that his actions in being late caused the no-show charge.
 
New partner. Doesn’t even seem apologetic about it. Wouldn’t even want that in my group
 
leftshot said:
Let me see if I’ve got this right.
  • The late charge was for your partner showing up late
  • The GM won’t waive the late fee
  • Your playing partner knows you’ve been charged the late fee
  • He’s not lifted one finger to intervene on your behalf with the GM or anyone else
  • He’s said he’s not responsible, but is okay with you being on the hook for this
If this is all correct, I think you’ve learned something very significant about the immaturity and lack of character of your playing partner.

What you do with that knowledge is up to you. But you should not ignore what you’ve learned.
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All this. Send in the punting team.
 
leftshot said:
Let me see if I’ve got this right.
  • The late charge was for your partner showing up late
  • The GM won’t waive the late fee
  • Your playing partner knows you’ve been charged the late fee
  • He’s not lifted one finger to intervene on your behalf with the GM or anyone else
  • He’s said he’s not responsible, but is okay with you being on the hook for this
If this is all correct, I think you’ve learned something very significant about the immaturity and lack of character of your playing partner.

What you do with that knowledge is up to you. But you should not ignore what you’ve learned.
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Thats how I read it too.

If I cost someone money because of my actions, I’d be sure to make them whole immediately. Either by paying the fee, or disputing with the golf course.
 
Yeah that is messed up. I would at least let them know if they want to play going forward they are on their own for booking, and likely just stop inviting them at all. Don't need that kind of negativity around.

The course stance doesnt make sense to me and seems like they have poor tracking or didnt even look into it. I would agree with going through your credit card company.
 
I would have him book his own tee time and tell him when you are playing.
 
Find a more reliable playing partner and never schedule his tee times. Only schedule yourself as that’s all you can control.
 
I would talk to him about it or have him book his own. But in this example the GM is an ass and the issue.
 
Have him book his own tee time or pay you before you book them. That way if he bails and you get charged, you already have his money. If he's not willing to do either then find a new partner.
 
I'd ask for the GM's boss contact info and call them to get it refunded.
 
If it were me,...Id give you the $60 bucks and even if you dispute it with the course or the credit card and get it taken care of I would (even after then) tell you to keep it for your troubles (but thats a nother thing).
Bottom line His antics is the reason for the charge even if the course also then mixed things up. This idea of his that its not his responsibility while knowing full well you been charged is so very childishly irresponsible. It shows he lacks integrity, responsibility, and good character. At very least minimal he should let you know that he will pay you if your unable to reverse it.

You should show him this thread.
 
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leftshot said:
Let me see if I’ve got this right.
  • The late charge was for your partner showing up late
  • The GM won’t waive the late fee
  • Your playing partner knows you’ve been charged the late fee
  • He’s not lifted one finger to intervene on your behalf with the GM or anyone else
  • He’s said he’s not responsible, but is okay with you being on the hook for this
If this is all correct, I think you’ve learned something very significant about the immaturity and lack of character of your playing partner.

What you do with that knowledge is up to you. But you should not ignore what you’ve learned.
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I'd be pretty pissed if someone didn't offer to recoup that cost for me. I 100% would if i was late or changed groups and knew someone else got charged.....Even if i disputed the charge with the course which might be reasonable in some cases, there's zero chance i'd let a friend take that hit for me while i did it

Not a fan of this guy

BTW i'm a decent playing partner and will be in Austin like 40% of next year---let's get a game!
 
I would dump the guy. You are the only one between the playing partner and GM who shouldn't be eating this cost.
 
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