Just got home from my full bag fitting at CC (this was the $100 promotion they ran) and was really pleased with the experience. I've wanted to go through this for some time and loved the chance to gather all this data and experiment a little bit. I worked with Greg at the Warrensville Heights, OH location.
I have zero ego with my golf swing so if anyone notices anything with this data that can be worked out, or perhaps target windows to shoot for, please feel free to point it out!
Overview
I went into this fully intending to come away with a new putter, and I did. I have a family member who wants my current putter, so even if I were to be fitted into exactly what I have, I had a clean slate to get something new. I also went into this fairly intent (but not married) to the idea of getting a SeeMore due to my inconsistency at setup. So was kinda leaning being fit into a SeeMore, specifically, but wanted to see where the road led. I was upfront with him that I'd likely buy a putter and was curious about driver but happy with my current setup.
We talked about a lot of things that could happen down the road with certain sections, but Greg wasn't overly pushing to upsell, which I appreciated after hearing some of the negative reviews. We might revisit some things in a year or two, and he mentioned if I do, it wouldn't be anything extra to re-do some of the swings and try some new things that are updated. I appreciated that. Perhaps it helped that I said I was fully intent on buying a putter, but, either way. Had zero pressure to do anything today.
Putter was the focus. Driver was second. And these two sections ended up being the most interesting. Irons/wedges/hybrids I was honest up front that I'd love to get the data and get some feedback from him, but I likely wasn't buying anything today unless it was eye-opening.
Irons, Wedges and Hybrids
Hit some irons, tested for length and lie and all of that, and the results were pretty consistent/good across the board. What I have was a pretty good fit for my swing. This was in line with a iron fitting I had at GolfTec earlier this year, but one I didn't much stock into because my swing was still extremely under construction and I was going through changes. Loved getting the data today.
Talked about wedges a bit, but I'd really like to remain in the cavity back options for now, so it was more a discussion on bounce options than switching anything out today. Hybrids I'm very happy with and just hit a few to get the data.
Takeaway with irons: Possible switch to stiff-flex shafts, as my swing speed was just in that window of possibly changing. But kinda close.
Driver
This one was interesting. My driver swing is still extremely inconsistent. I've had trouble getting it down. So I hit my driver first to get a baseline. I love my current setup (with the Linq shaft from the mystery bag, what a great time that was!).
I was *shocked* at my swing speed. I had no idea I was hitting 105. Honestly, I swing a little too hard, for I had no idea. That would likely point to a switch to a stiff-flex shaft. And the problem: that spin rate hovering around 5,000 that's costing me distance.
My swing wasn't great with my driver. As I warmed up, it got a bit better. We switch to a stiff-flex, 55g shaft, and immediately the results flip. Spin rate drop to 3,000, though clubhead speed dropped quite a bit. Adjust to a stiff-flex 50G shaft (Tour AD Design XC-5), and I hit some really nice drives for me with a clubhead speed at 100. Dispersion and spin rate were *so* much better, instantly. BUT I also felt I made an adjustment as I swung and was just putting better swings on it.
So I ask to hit a few more with my driver, and yeah — a lot of it was the quality of swings. The last two with my current driver are right in line with what we were seeing as the improvement with the stiff-flex 50G shaft (my driver head is a Ping G410, stiff-flex was put into a G425).
So while perhaps down the road I might switch to a stiff-flex, I love my current driver shaft/setup and can stick with that, as the quality swings at the end were pretty close. I'd be curious for more feedback on this from THPers.
Like, look at the spin rates for swings 1-6 and then 7 and 8, which we added at the end.
Putting
I loved going through the SAM PuttLab. Determined that my path is a bit out-and-then-in.
Straight arc of path, reduced rotation, which recommended mallet/square.
Closing rotation/path: recommended 30-45 degree toe hang. Face aim: 3.1* closed.
Launch conditions were 4.6-4.6* rise, actual loft of mine was 3*, shaft angle 1.8*, recommendation was 0.0 loft, but the fitter believed splitting some of the difference and going 1.0* would be best.
Recommended lie: 70*
Grip: medium (which is consistent all the way through the bag, I need midsize grips, which is also consistent from the GolfTec fitting.
So we try a few SeeMore mallets, an EVNROLL square and the Mizuno M-Craft square (oh man, those Mizunos are gorgeous, and this wasn't even the blue I would have gone with). I liked the square, but liked the RST more. I found that hiding the red dot wasn't an issue, but when I was at address, I was also slightly correcting my angle to perfectly balance the two white lines. That got my attention, and I really like the confidence that RST brings. So while I really liked the M-Craft, I got it down to two SeeMores, as I've been pretty determined to try RST and it felt great. I took some time comparing the SB20 and the mini giant deep flange and felt the best with the SB20 in my hands. Then picked out a SuperStroke Traxion Tour 2.0 red/white for the grip. And ordered! Looking forward to it.
So SeeMore Platinum SB20, 34", 1* loft, 70 lie, midsize grip. Can't wait!
and I’m glad my fitter was patient and not pushy, so this can be added as a positive review. Seems like it’s been hit or miss so I think I got lucky.
I have zero ego with my golf swing so if anyone notices anything with this data that can be worked out, or perhaps target windows to shoot for, please feel free to point it out!
Overview
I went into this fully intending to come away with a new putter, and I did. I have a family member who wants my current putter, so even if I were to be fitted into exactly what I have, I had a clean slate to get something new. I also went into this fairly intent (but not married) to the idea of getting a SeeMore due to my inconsistency at setup. So was kinda leaning being fit into a SeeMore, specifically, but wanted to see where the road led. I was upfront with him that I'd likely buy a putter and was curious about driver but happy with my current setup.
We talked about a lot of things that could happen down the road with certain sections, but Greg wasn't overly pushing to upsell, which I appreciated after hearing some of the negative reviews. We might revisit some things in a year or two, and he mentioned if I do, it wouldn't be anything extra to re-do some of the swings and try some new things that are updated. I appreciated that. Perhaps it helped that I said I was fully intent on buying a putter, but, either way. Had zero pressure to do anything today.
Putter was the focus. Driver was second. And these two sections ended up being the most interesting. Irons/wedges/hybrids I was honest up front that I'd love to get the data and get some feedback from him, but I likely wasn't buying anything today unless it was eye-opening.
Irons, Wedges and Hybrids
Hit some irons, tested for length and lie and all of that, and the results were pretty consistent/good across the board. What I have was a pretty good fit for my swing. This was in line with a iron fitting I had at GolfTec earlier this year, but one I didn't much stock into because my swing was still extremely under construction and I was going through changes. Loved getting the data today.
Talked about wedges a bit, but I'd really like to remain in the cavity back options for now, so it was more a discussion on bounce options than switching anything out today. Hybrids I'm very happy with and just hit a few to get the data.
Takeaway with irons: Possible switch to stiff-flex shafts, as my swing speed was just in that window of possibly changing. But kinda close.
Driver
This one was interesting. My driver swing is still extremely inconsistent. I've had trouble getting it down. So I hit my driver first to get a baseline. I love my current setup (with the Linq shaft from the mystery bag, what a great time that was!).
I was *shocked* at my swing speed. I had no idea I was hitting 105. Honestly, I swing a little too hard, for I had no idea. That would likely point to a switch to a stiff-flex shaft. And the problem: that spin rate hovering around 5,000 that's costing me distance.
My swing wasn't great with my driver. As I warmed up, it got a bit better. We switch to a stiff-flex, 55g shaft, and immediately the results flip. Spin rate drop to 3,000, though clubhead speed dropped quite a bit. Adjust to a stiff-flex 50G shaft (Tour AD Design XC-5), and I hit some really nice drives for me with a clubhead speed at 100. Dispersion and spin rate were *so* much better, instantly. BUT I also felt I made an adjustment as I swung and was just putting better swings on it.
So I ask to hit a few more with my driver, and yeah — a lot of it was the quality of swings. The last two with my current driver are right in line with what we were seeing as the improvement with the stiff-flex 50G shaft (my driver head is a Ping G410, stiff-flex was put into a G425).
So while perhaps down the road I might switch to a stiff-flex, I love my current driver shaft/setup and can stick with that, as the quality swings at the end were pretty close. I'd be curious for more feedback on this from THPers.
Like, look at the spin rates for swings 1-6 and then 7 and 8, which we added at the end.
Putting
I loved going through the SAM PuttLab. Determined that my path is a bit out-and-then-in.
Straight arc of path, reduced rotation, which recommended mallet/square.
Closing rotation/path: recommended 30-45 degree toe hang. Face aim: 3.1* closed.
Launch conditions were 4.6-4.6* rise, actual loft of mine was 3*, shaft angle 1.8*, recommendation was 0.0 loft, but the fitter believed splitting some of the difference and going 1.0* would be best.
Recommended lie: 70*
Grip: medium (which is consistent all the way through the bag, I need midsize grips, which is also consistent from the GolfTec fitting.
So we try a few SeeMore mallets, an EVNROLL square and the Mizuno M-Craft square (oh man, those Mizunos are gorgeous, and this wasn't even the blue I would have gone with). I liked the square, but liked the RST more. I found that hiding the red dot wasn't an issue, but when I was at address, I was also slightly correcting my angle to perfectly balance the two white lines. That got my attention, and I really like the confidence that RST brings. So while I really liked the M-Craft, I got it down to two SeeMores, as I've been pretty determined to try RST and it felt great. I took some time comparing the SB20 and the mini giant deep flange and felt the best with the SB20 in my hands. Then picked out a SuperStroke Traxion Tour 2.0 red/white for the grip. And ordered! Looking forward to it.
So SeeMore Platinum SB20, 34", 1* loft, 70 lie, midsize grip. Can't wait!
and I’m glad my fitter was patient and not pushy, so this can be added as a positive review. Seems like it’s been hit or miss so I think I got lucky.
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