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545 is something like a players game improvement club.
Likening the Srixon lineup to the Callaway lineup I think it would be something like
745 - Apex Pro
545 - Apex/XR Pro
355 - XR
155 - Bertha
Why launch these if you've already got a really forgiving game improvement iron in the Z 545?
I guess I just don't see how these are really going to differentiate between the 545 line. I'd actually think these might even be cannibalistic to the 545 line.
Is it just the size of the club face and the construction process that is different here?
Not knocking Srixon at all, as I game the 745 irons currently and am a huge fan of their product line.
Mine too, though I don't think these ultimately approach the incredible looks of the 545s. That's more of a tip of the cap to the 545s than a knock on these.Black, red and white just go so well together. My favorite color combination by FAR.
Mine too, though I don't think these ultimately approach the incredible looks of the 545s. That more of a tip of the cap to the 545s than a knock on these.
Agree 100%. The 545s were probably the best looking irons released last year.
Why launch these if you've already got a really forgiving game improvement iron in the Z 545?
I guess I just don't see how these are really going to differentiate between the 545 line. I'd actually think these might even be cannibalistic to the 545 line.
Is it just the size of the club face and the construction process that is different here?
Not knocking Srixon at all, as I game the 745 irons currently and am a huge fan of their product line.
I think so too. They were probably my favorite iron of the year. Thankfully mpeterson let me game his for 5-6 weeks.
Not a knock on the release necessarily. Although, in all honesty, I think they could do more with the 745/545 line. Simply because I've played those lines enough to know that Srixon really hit a HUGE home run with those irons and I'd love to see more amateurs get their hands on them.
It'll be interesting to see these in-hand at some point. I LOVE the looks of my 745/545 set. If Srixon topped that then wow!
Valid point. Like I said, I think they could have done more with the 545/745 line but that's just my two cents.
I guess I'm still interested to understand how these build upon the previous line or if it's purely a release for the sake of putting a product out there.
has gained a lot of traction since entering the market and I feel like the 545/745 line is getting some really good buzz but there's a lot of potential left. I truly believe they have that good of a product in those lines.
Was XR a release for a different golfer? I mean how many THPers made the switch to XR/XRP from Apexes.
I guess my hope as a Srixon fan is that the company releases a new product because it truly brings something new to consumers.
Was XR a release for a different golfer? I mean how many THPers made the switch to XR/XRP from Apexes.
I guess my hope as a Srixon fan is that the company releases a new product because it truly brings something new to consumers.
Exactly. I think Srixon has gained a lot of traction since entering the market and I feel like the 545/745 line is getting some really good buzz but there's a lot of potential left. I truly believe they have that good of a product in those lines.
While I know how you feel about how good the 545/745's are, there are simply MANY golfers that would look at the 545's and think they are too demanding. While they offer a ton of forgiveness for their design they are nowhere close to a SGI iron and that is where Srixon can gain additional marketshare with the 355/155.
Did XR build upon Apex? Or was it a different release for a different person? No different here
I'm not disagreeing with you here but I do think it's interesting that some golfers would view the 545's as "too much club". Like you, I played SGI irons like the Altitudes for a while and they were just too bulky for my eye. Even now the 545 is on the thick side for a GI iron but not over the top by any means and I've never looked down on it and felt any intimidation at all. Again, that's just me.
From what you saw is the 355 line larger, in terms of topline, sole width, and/or face length?
Again, them adding a line to bring more consumers into the brand is a good thing. Hard to tell from the pictures what the difference is relative to the 545 line but as more info comes out that will be something interesting to see.
For me (and this could change tomorrow, of course) I don't want to play a forgiving players club again. I want a GI / SGI type club which trends toward a players club, if that makes sense. The 545s seem like they are in the former category, so that scares me off of them a bit. The 355's appear to be on the other side of the ledger, so they are intriguing.I'm not disagreeing with you here but I do think it's interesting that some golfers would view the 545's as "too much club". Like you, I played SGI irons like the Altitudes for a while and they were just too bulky for my eye. Even now the 545 is on the thick side for a GI iron but not over the top by any means and I've never looked down on it and felt any intimidation at all. Again, that's just me
I'm scarred by a year of intermittent struggles with another club that some say is just as forgiving as the i25s :bashful:tequila, if you are playing the i25s, you should have no problem playing the z545s.