The $700 for unlimited golf sounds like a good deal from what you stated about that course.
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MonroeBob1955
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It really is. Their manager said the city was raising the rates after the first of the year, but not appreciably. Join now and youre locked in for 2 months.
Wantacigar
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On Long Island, NY the average club is $15K - $20K per year with a $3K per year food minimum. Not including the $5K - $20K non equity initial fee paid over 3 years.
I play public courses........
I still spend $4K-$6K per year in just green fees (with carts) for 40-50 rounds. Bethpage is the cheapest around and it's $75 w/cart. I have bad knees and a foot issue from birth. I walk maybe 10 rounds/year.
That being said, Bethpage is in better shape than some private clubs.
The privately owned public courses run $90-$100 for a round of golf.
I play public courses........
I still spend $4K-$6K per year in just green fees (with carts) for 40-50 rounds. Bethpage is the cheapest around and it's $75 w/cart. I have bad knees and a foot issue from birth. I walk maybe 10 rounds/year.
That being said, Bethpage is in better shape than some private clubs.
The privately owned public courses run $90-$100 for a round of golf.
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We’re about the same age and within about a half club of each other in distance, so I can really relate to this.
I play my 4 home courses from the green tees now at between 55-5900 yards. I’m always playing in a league or money game and they simply wouldn’t allow me or anyone else to play the golds (which are usually between 510-5300) and from the few times they’ve had to move a random tee box up there, I wouldn’t want to.
I have no desire to play 400-420 yard par 5’s, sub 100 par 3’s, and par 4’s that I can either reach, or come within a partial wedge of. Sure, my scores would drop significantly, but to me it’s the equivalent of playing basketball with a 7 foot basket. I’d be dunking like Michael Jordan… but who cares?
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I think I’d join the muni and save $2300. You would still have the option to play elsewhere if you want to mix things up a bit.
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Do you ever head out East to play? When I come up to the Island I stay about a mile from Bethpage Park, but no longer being a State resident, the fees are nuts. You can get some good deals on very nice courses from exit 63 and out. It’s a drive, but you also play a lot faster than at Bethpage.
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I switched this year to the Maxfli Tour also, and I really like it. I’m not sure what name, but it‘s the one that comes in a white box.
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Based on the facts you provided, switching to the muni sounds like the right decision. However, my first thought was of things I didn't know that might influence your decision.
- Do you have a group of guys you usually play with? If so, what are they going to do? Would that influence your decision?
- How about leagues and events you enjoy, got any of those? Would you still want to participate in those? Could you? At what cost?
- What about accessibility to your preferred tee times, or the overall availability of tee times? If you can't get tee times then the value goes way down. Unlimited play only has value if you can get on the course.
- What about other facility amenities: Range or practice areas, pro shop, bar, dining, and locker room? How do they compare? Is there anything there that would tip the scales?
- Location: It sounds like they are both local, but there can still be appreciable differences in access or travel time. If there are, how does that factor into your decision?
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It sounds like your golf friends are okay to play the city course and getting a tee time is no big deal. If you practice a lot, then practice facilities might be important. I would go with the city course at $700. That leaves you over $2,000. How does the joke go? "I spent $1,700 of my $2000 on golf, booze and women. The rest of it I wasted."
Wantacigar
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I do. I play Rock Hill, Pine Hills, Spring Lake, Mill Pond (The worst time management course. Min. 5 hrs), Swan Lake, Middle Island. They are all $90-$100 for a weekend round.
I live in Levittown on the Bethpage border right near the Broadway/Central Ave. intersection. Bethpage has gotten alot better. The average round for me there is 4:10-4:30 on a Sunday morning. I played Sat. 11/16 and played in 3:50. I also play Eisenhower weekdays because I hit it on my way home from work. I get off at 2:45
I'm doing a Montauk Downs trip next year
Wantacigar
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I also switched to the Maxfli Tour. I get same performance as the ProV1. I'm 58 and still get my drives out 225-240 on good days. 8 iron is 136-140. 9i is my 125 club. Back is good. Knees are bad but I can still turn on it.
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I never play the weekends when I’m up there. I play with my friends as a guest in their leagues or we try to find something else during the week on golf now.
Got a round in at the club. Was slightly cold, a bit windy and a touch on the soft side, so it played longer than normal. Still had a pretty good round. Got around in 3 hours too.
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great round in that weather - wish I could putt like you - I am usually 31 to 33 putts per round on a good putting round - only been in the 20's in 4 of a 100 rounds - actually shot 80 this year twice with 40 putts
The secret the good putting is to just miss the green and be putting from the fringe a lot. Plus, make a lot of 8 to 10 footers.
cuonthe1t
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true - but like you I follow stats and if you hit 8 or 9 greens per round you should break 80 most of the time- this year I only had 16% of my 100 rounds in the 70's and I often hit 8 or more greens - my putting has really been poor the last 2 years as I was a member at a course with extremely slopped greens - hopefully next year I will resort back to decent putting at my new course
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The highlighted part brought back a memory. When we were kids my neighbor/friends Dad was going to put up a basketball hoop and backboard for us. He mounted it on a telephone pole with a streetlight for night play. He had to devise a custom bracket for it so we could do layups without slamming into the pole. When we were putting it up he asked if we wanted it at 7 or 8 feet so we could dunk. We thought for a second and figure that while it might be fun, it would screw us up playing on a regulation court.
We've fallen back in love with the city muni that is 9 holes, now that they've resumed taking care of the place. We play the gold tees which is just fine but for one hole. There's a road that crosses the course in front of the tees. The course is 101 years old this year, and that road wasn't there when the course was built. So now there's a 20 foot tall fence beside the road for tee shots from the whites and blues to clear. If you tried to used the old gold tees, you'd have to hit a short iron to get over. So the golds are now on the other side of the road which shortens that par 4 to about 255 yards.
Having recovered some distance the past two seasons what do I try to do? Drive the green of course! And I've been close a couple of time, actually reaching the fringe. Even if I'm short I have one of those partial wedges that I've been struggling with, and it's good to have the opportunity to use those shots when you're actually trying to score. In that mindset all shots, long or short, have value.
The Club has very sloped greens and they are deceptive, hard to read. You learn, when in doubt, to play more break than you see and that downhill putts are hard to get the speed right. watch some of the crazy putts at the Masters or at Oakmont sometime.
We have a sloped green on one of the courses we play, if you get above the hole you could end up at the bottom of the green and a long wat to the hole.
We have a lot of sloped greens near my location. Makes for an interesting day if the madman that designed the greens was in a good mood ( mild breaks) or a crazy mood (with huge breaks).
Yes, but your HI might not as the rating/slope would be a lot different.
I watched the Challenge Tour (the DPWT's KFT) final and 20 golfers received DPWT cards for next season. One guy was a just turned 20 year old named Angel Ayora. I think he's going to make some noise. What I found interesting is he carries both a 7-wood and a 9-wood.
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Bit of a late response, but I’ve played the OG Halos since this Spring. I like them and was also considering the Wilson LP 2’s, but opted for the Halos after finding THP and reading the Halo thread.
I just played my first round after a multi-week road trip and I kinda reverted back to some issues I had when I first started playing the Halos - pretty hard pull to the left. I’m sure it’s a grip issue.
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Yes, I know. In fact I started a conversation about that in here last week if you can recall, questioning near to or scratch handicaps from Senior tees. In a scenario where you or I were playing a 5200 yard/105 course, we’d probably need to shoot an average score of 66 or 67 to have a scratch handicap.
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Happy Thanksgiving to all on this thread, we are having ours Saturday, because one grandson is in Bangkok and won't be back until Friday.
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