The Official Counterfeit Thread

Dent · Feb 14, 2011

jefrazie · Feb 14, 2011

Great idea. Post bad ebay sellers as well, always good to know who to stay away from.

Dent · Feb 14, 2011

jefrazie said:
Great idea. Post bad ebay sellers as well, always good to know who to stay away from.

Yep for sure, everyone post your bad ebay sellers as well!

Smallville · Feb 14, 2011

Found this in a similar thread from a couple years ago. Some of these may be duplicates from the list in the first post, or may even be closed by now:

www.dhgate.com
www.firstrankgolf.com
www.pgagolfclubs.com
www.shopofgolf.biz CLOSED
www.shopofgolf.com CLOSED
www.bigworldgolf.com

EDIT: checked against Dent's list and got rid of most of them except the above.

BulldogsGolf · Feb 14, 2011

Very good to know guys!

imscottr · Feb 14, 2011

Jeez, look at all those sites! I had no idea there would be so many. You know, this probably wouldn't be a problem if companies would make their stuff Stateside. Just say'n.

blugold · Feb 14, 2011

I love the "official" threads. I just wonder what makes a thread the "official thread of _______."

This is all good information. I am very caustious about what I buy online and from where.

Snap Hook · Feb 14, 2011

When my father passed away last year, my mom asked me if i wanted his golf clubs. I said ok thinking My dad's a golf nut and he'll have the best newest stuff. My mom shipped 6 staff bags full of clubs to me. Being as he lived in China the past 9 years I was wary about counterfeit clubs.
Of the 117 clubs I received, 28 in my opinion were counterfeit. 5 of the 28 counterfeits were putters that were in a popular Ping style (anser, zing, b60....etc) but were clearly made by a chinese company so those could be open to interpretation as wether or not they were counterfeits.
Of the remaining 23, 13 were two sets of r7 taylormade irons. I was able to determine they were counterfeits due to a lack of a serial number on the (i think its the 5iron but could be the 6 I don't remember) and the Taylormade logo was an older different logo.
The remaining 10 were Nike/Taylormade/Calloway Drivers that DID NOT have a serial number stamped on the hosel. So much for my theory that atleast my dad would never buy a counterfeit driver.

Man I rambled far longer than I intended. but the point I was trying to make is this: CHINA MAKES COUNTERFEITS SO BE CAREFUL!!!! I've seen knock offs from Louis Vuitton Purses, to DVDS, to perfumes, to Ipods, to THIS FAKE ROLLS ROYCE!!:
http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/04/21/a-rolls-royce-knock-off-from-china/

If its got value, China has counterfeited it so please watch out people.

Dent · Feb 14, 2011

Great post Snap, thanks for the heads up and example.

pattyblind9golf · Feb 14, 2011

Snap Hook said:
When my father passed away last year, my mom asked me if i wanted his golf clubs. I said ok thinking My dad's a golf nut and he'll have the best newest stuff. My mom shipped 6 staff bags full of clubs to me. Being as he lived in China the past 9 years I was wary about counterfeit clubs. I know my father was such a golf nut that he would never buy a counterfiet driver/wood. Distance and gambling on Golf was so important to him that he would never risk his money on a copy that was cheaply made.However the "touch/feel" clubs such as putters and wedges....... lets just say I knew how desperate he is to shave a few strokes off his game.

Of the 117 clubs I received, 28 in my opinion were counterfeit. 5 of the 28 counterfeits were putters that were in a popular Ping style (anser, zing, b60....etc) but were clearly made by a chinese company so those could be open to interpretation as wether or not they were counterfeits.
Of the remaining 23, 13 were two sets of r7 taylormade irons. I was able to determine they were counterfeits due to a lack of a serial number on the (i think its the 5iron but could be the 6 I don't remember) and the Taylormade logo was an older different logo.
The remaining 10 were Nike/Taylormade/Calloway Drivers that DID NOT have a serial number stamped on the hosel. So much for my theory that atleast my dad would never buy a counterfeit driver.

So I took the remainnig 89 clubs into my local used golf store. I was upfront with them told them the origin of the clubs and, shown them the homework I had done on these 89 and why I felt strongly that they were real. Of the 89, they accepted72 with the remaing 17 being too "questionable" to take. Questionable could also have meant old and beat up for a few of those clubs.

Man I rambled far longer than I intended. but the point I was trying to make is this: CHINA MAKES COUNTERFEITS SO BE CAREFUL!!!! I've seen knock offs from Louis Vuitton Purses, to DVDS, to perfumes, to Ipods, to THIS FAKE ROLLS ROYCE!!:
http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/04/21/a-rolls-royce-knock-off-from-china/

If its got value, China has counterfeited it so please watch out people.

Very interesting. Just fyi - there are a few clubs that might still not have serial numbers. We had a club ship direct from Adams that did not have a serial number. The buyer called us, concerned that it was a fake. We confirmed that this was a club that shipped directly from Adams and that there was no number on it. I can't remember what club it was though - but I don't think it was a driver. When did companies start stamping serial numbers? I have no idea if that is a reliable way to confirm a fake or not. Also, I've also heard that there are a bunch of fakes with serial numbers on them, but that they are still fakes.

I imagine that it's really hard to buy clubs in China, trying to tell what is fake or real. We've heard of a handful of local golf shops that do the bulk of their business in exporting. We've heard through the grapevine that they have tens of thousands of dollars in real products exported to China for re-sale.

Golf 'N Gator · Feb 15, 2011

The one on the left is REAL. The one on the right is COUNTERFEIT!

JR · Feb 15, 2011

golfshopshopping.com

Not 100% on this one, but thought it should be looked into just in case.

jefrazie · Feb 15, 2011

Been looking at this site not sure if its for real or not.

http://www.mortongolfsales.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=NEVER_LE_GAMBLER_ROYAL&click=2

Jman · Feb 15, 2011

jefrazie said:
Been looking at this site not sure if its for real or not.

http://www.mortongolfsales.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=NEVER_LE_GAMBLER_ROYAL&click=2

Morton Golf Sales is legit.

pattyblind9golf · Feb 15, 2011

jefrazie said:
Been looking at this site not sure if its for real or not.

http://www.mortongolfsales.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=NEVER_LE_GAMBLER_ROYAL&click=2

Definitely legit. But if you're looking at the Gambler, PM me. I'll hook you up if I can.

Golf 'N Gator · Feb 15, 2011

Jman215 said:
Morton Golf Sales is legit.

VERY legit and ran by a good guy.

Mardin · Feb 15, 2011

Dent said:
Inspired from Mardin who posted in a counterfeit thread I will make this the official thread where you post website that you feel are presumably selling fakes and you can be the judge. Just a heads up for people buying clubs check this thread and see if the site is listed. Feel free to add your own and I will edit the original if I can.

*Some taken from www.fakegolfclubsellers.com

Thanks for taking the initiative with this one Dent...I know it will help any and everyone that may run acros these people/sites. Happy and Safe Shopping THP'ers.

Dent · Feb 15, 2011

aggro said:
golfshopshopping.com

Not 100% on this one, but thought it should be looked into just in case.

That one does look very sketchy, I'll add it to the list.

Gamma · Feb 20, 2011

www.igolfspy.com is fake.

Interestingly, both ispygolf and mygolfspy are legit sites.

Smallville · Feb 20, 2011

Gamma said:
www.igolfspy.com is fake.

Interestingly, both ispygolf and mygolfspy are legit sites.

They don't sell counterfeit clubs, anyway.

Dent · Feb 20, 2011

Gamma said:
www.igolfspy.com is fake.

Interestingly, both ispygolf and mygolfspy are legit sites.

Definatly, added to the list.

Barberakb · Feb 20, 2011

Smallville said:
They don't sell counterfeit clubs, anyway.

lollol

Gamma · Feb 21, 2011

Umm...what is the joke?

bstone21 · Feb 21, 2011

Seems like if they use DHL or EMS to ship it's fake.

Barberakb · Feb 23, 2011

Gamma said:
Umm...what is the joke?

The joke is Smallville dogging the other websites. Only crazy people get it.

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