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Whoa whoa, I can think about playing a low spin ball speed monster. It would just be a poor decision if I did end up with it in the bag@Canadan, should anyone that is not a +3 or better even think of playing the 4?
They are the same, except for the stuff that's different. Come on dude. I mean they're all golf clubs right?It’s like...club design works and not all drivers are the same like the internet tells me they are
There's specialized, and then 'we don't actually want to sell any of these'. Lol.@Canadan, should anyone that is not a +3 or better even think of playing the 4?
There's specialized, and then 'we don't actually want to sell any of these'. Lol.
You're playing a Sub Zero turned down to 7 or something, right? It might be worth a try. Nothing scary for you about the size, and it comes in an 8* I think.
I like this. I was actually playing around in my mind with the idea that if I had two drivers in the bag, a TSi2 and a TSi4 would be fun. Hit the TSi2 on most holes. However, on certain holes and maybe open par 5’s, the 4 could be a weapon. I attempted to qualify for my state’s senior am this past summer. There was a par 4 that was set up at 500 yards and ran a little uphill. I had to hit driver and 5 wood to get there. Another 10 yards could get me into a hybrid for the approach shot.I have worked with all of these now pretty extensively. The TSi4 is going to be pretty specialized, but was needed for their lineup in my opinion. Likewise the TSi1 will be, which gets the ball up quickly. For me, the TSi3 worked pretty darn well and I loved the look and sound. The TSi1 would be a great 2nd driver for me as well.
I like the smaller size driver option, personally. It's nice.There's specialized, and then 'we don't actually want to sell any of these'. Lol.
You're playing a Sub Zero turned down to 7 or something, right? It might be worth a try. Nothing scary for you about the size, and it comes in an 8* I think.
I think I heard your doorbell ring. If you check, I think it is TSi4, trying to date you. She is saying, “my body size is perfect for your eye and I won’t spin you around like the other girls.”I actually don't have super low loft on my driver. I could play 9-10 pretty comfortably in the right setup.
I'd be down to spend some time with one, that's for sure.I think I heard your doorbell ring. If you check, I think it is TSi4, trying to date you. She is saying, “my body size is perfect for your eye and I won’t spin you around like the other girls.”
I think major OEM company designers-engineers believe wholeheartedly that 440 CC to 460 CC head size drivers are best for most players. However it could be that some Tour players suggested designing-producing a smaller head. I think Titleist now doing a 425CC head is an example of the company's engineers accommodating the request, but doing so in a way (forward weighting) in an attempt to keep the "average player" in the larger "more forgiving" 460 C size.There's specialized, and then 'we don't actually want to sell any of these'. Lol.
Yeah, I do too. I just can't afford the spin loss on some of the super low spin ones right now. Totals/averages don't dip too far, but the low limit between acceptable and terrifying tends to get crossed a little more often. The TSi3 has been pretty perfect for me.I like the smaller size driver option, personally. It's nice.
I LOVE me some spin loss!! hahahahaYeah, I do too. I just can't afford the spin loss on some of the super low spin ones right now. Totals/averages don't dip too far, but the low limit between acceptable and terrifying tends to get crossed a little more often. The TSi3 has been pretty perfect for me.
I think major OEM company designers-engineers believe wholeheartedly that 440 CC to 460 CC head size drivers are best for most players. However it could be that some Tour players suggested designing-producing a smaller head. I think Titleist now doing a 425CC head is an example of the company's engineers accommodating the request, but doing so in a way (forward weighting) in an attempt to keep the "average player" in the larger "more forgiving" 460 C size.
I am not suggesting there is a "conspiracy" happening, but rather that OEM designers-engineers seem steadfast in their resolve that "bigger is better" for most players. I don't understand this resolve because back in the day the 425 CC TM R7 model was enjoyed by all skill level players. And before that some legendary sub 400CC drivers such as Ping ISI Tec, Titleist 905S, TM R510 were awesome performers for all skill level players.
Hopefully this new Titleist TSi4 will produce good shots for lots of players and customers will not be afraid by the reviews and, or, marketing suggesting the club is "only for high swing speeds" or that it is a "specialized niche driver" or that it is "not the most forgiving of the line up". Hopefully players will swing this one and see for themselves the shots it produces.
Here is a favorable TSI4 review by a 99 mph swing speed player who carries his tee shots about 250.
Crazy how different the performance is on these 2 with the same swing put on the ball. That is really cool and speaks to the engineering going on at these companies.I have worked with all of these now pretty extensively. The TSi4 is going to be pretty specialized, but was needed for their lineup in my opinion. Likewise the TSi1 will be, which gets the ball up quickly. For me, the TSi3 worked pretty darn well and I loved the look and sound. The TSi1 would be a great 2nd driver for me as well.
I think you are right. Might have to have a good look at that shaft this year for sure tooPretty sure it was the Smoke RDX Smoke Black, wasn't it?
Looks like it in the vid.