I heard a good analogy of golfers, if golf is 90% mental & 10% physical, when you are playing badly do you need a shrink or a lesson?
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It does not. I was all in on the Forged Tech until my fitting. Playing Speedzones as we speak!!To be fair, something looking good to the eye doesnt mean it will perform better on the course either right?
This is an interesting point. I'm sure 440cc or 450cc are perceived as less forgiving based on mass alone, spin profile excluded. I'm playing a smaller head now and I can't even tell it's a "small head" anymore. The adjustment period was pretty brief. A year or two ago, I would've never thought I'd have "forgiving" performance at less than 460cc. Meanwhile, we aren't far removed from drivers being the size of our 3w. So how much is perception driving preference and how much is actually just club performance?This adds another layer then, right? Why would you choose to not play a smaller driver?
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Do you test things outside of your comfort zone in appearance? Yes! I tested all three sets of hybrid irons earlier this year and last year and it was eye opening, I definitely think I would have been able to game two of them for a full season.
Could you be losing out on performance? Double edged sword though, in that I don't think consumers should make sleep on something visually unappealing, but I think with technology and manufacturing where it's at now, companies shouldn't make ugly equipment
Why does smaller attract the core golfer more than technology forward? This is a great question, I don't have a good answer, maybe it's less chatter in a bag, possibly lighter weight in the bag, they don't see a tour pro playing hybrid irons (OL is different animal and you see people flocking to Cobra based on the success of BAD) Maybe companies need to do a better job of communicating gains with said technology and combating the dreaded "marketing speak." I think with the tech it goes hand in hand with fittings, people used to not get fit, but now the focus is get fit and get more distance and accuracy.
This is an interesting point. I'm sure 440cc or 450cc are perceived as less forgiving based on mass alone, spin profile excluded. I'm playing a smaller head now and I can't even tell it's a "small head" anymore. The adjustment period was pretty brief. A year or two ago, I would've never thought I'd have "forgiving" performance at less than 460cc. Meanwhile, we aren't far removed from drivers being the size of our 3w. So how much is perception driving preference and how much is actually just club performance?
Yes the person in said discussion was me... LOL
I would go with the OL Forged Tec because the profile of the club is very similar to the last several iron sets I’ve gamed (Apex 16, Rogue Pro, Apex 19, & PTx Pros).
It’s not like I don’t have experience with the Forged Tec line as they were JB’s gamers for most of 2020. Everytime I borrowed them either on the course & in the sim , I have hit them well.
I would love to hit them in the OL profile.
With all of that being said, I’m a club snob, and vanity does sneak into my club selection.
Yes the person in said discussion was me... LOL
I would go with the OL Forged Tec because the profile of the club is very similar to the last several iron sets I’ve gamed (Apex 16, Rogue Pro, Apex 19, & PTx Pros).
It’s not like I don’t have experience with the Forged Tec line as they were JB’s gamers for most of 2020. Everytime I borrowed them either on the course & in the sim , I have hit them well.
I would love to hit them in the OL profile.
With all of that being said, I’m a club snob, and vanity does sneak into my club selection.
As someone who is relatively new to golfing Internet forums and being in contact with so many golfing enthusiasts, I am genuinely surprised at how much importance guys place in the way their golf clubs look. I guess with so many choices available, you need a way to pick one over another.
To that point, I remember when Finau started playing the G400 Max driver and I was floored. I assumed a player of his caliber would gaming the LST. I'm sure there was some spin profile customizaton to the head he was gaming, but again....perception.Depends on the club, but its an interesting conversation.
For instance while there are a few, much less are clamoring for a driver half the size of their current model for precision.
There seems to be this idea that larger means less precise and I am not sure I agree with that, although think it was fair for many years. I think the @Canadan video with the wedges showed that rather well.
That goes back to what @mpeterson said previously about growing up. You spent decades playing smaller and then a range session with something larger to determine its not the right fit. So whether its beneficial or not to your game, the comfort says the decision is made, right?
So this begs the question...have you ever seen a fugly club?I’d like to think I’d choose the clubs that give me an opportunity to score lower. That said, I’m probably not the norm in that I haven’t really found a club that I’m uncomfortable with at address. Changing clubs or certain clubs may cause me to align differently or appear different to the eye, but I can’t really picture anything where I’d make my choice largely based on looks.
So that's an affirmative. Gotcha.We had one of these in the garage when I was a kid...
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Im curious some examples here.
To a point, yes. but i also believe that we tend to test what we believe we would use. I don't test many larger headed irons because when i pick them up and set it down and it has a 1/2 inch wide top line, i tend to put it back. The one time in the last year or so that i deviated from this was at the True Temper Event where there was such a vast selection or heads with different shafts and i was a kid in a candy store. When it came time to select irons to play, i went for the thinner top line and muscle back/blade sight line. THE UHX blew me away. But then again, when we played an extra round afterwards with @OITW I hit the T-Rails a few times and they were okay and i hit good shots, but ti do not hit them any better "or worse" than my irons. Negligible distance either, I am reaching a point in my age where , "do i want to lose distance"? NO, we never do, but if i am still playing my blade 7 iron at 160-165, why would i change?
So looks over comfort ? I would move to a larger non-comfort , and get comfortable with it, when i need it.
"So whether its beneficial or not to your game, the comfort says the decision is made, right?"
I see your point, not trying to be confrontational, but conversational, I would make the move, when i feel i need it for sure....
So this begs the question...have you ever seen a fugly club?
now this is obviously my personal opinion but i tested both of these in hand. Without knowing which is which (you might already know)....
Which looks smaller to you?
Part of this is the heel, the toe shape, the grooves, the finish, etc etc etc.