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    Quote Originally Posted by bogeyme View Post
    I'm on the fence about it. I'm sure you're hearing more than I am about it being in the area. Are they talking up there that he's the "coach in waiting" in case things go farther south on Hue? One talk show I was listening to here in C-bus was talking that they signed him as a CIW along with being OC.
    Well he's getting to call plays apparently. I think Hue is out if they are 0-3 anyways so not sure what the coach in waiting thing matters

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    So it looks like 5 or 6 QBs may go in round 1 and then a bit of a dropoff.

    Any under the radar QBs that will go in the mid rounds that could have an impact down the road?

    Who do you want your team to take if they're looking for a QB?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PKorf View Post
    Well he's getting to call plays apparently. I think Hue is out if they are 0-3 anyways so not sure what the coach in waiting thing matters

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    I was trying to figure out how long they'll keep him. They might give him longer than that, depending on who the first 3 games are against. I can't wait to see what the offense looks like.

    What do you think about Joe Thomas lobbying for Brees to sign with Cleveland? I'm sure odds are very small that it would actually happen. Well at least not until Brees is using a walker and carrying an oxygen tank. Then Cleveland will offer him top dollar and make him the highest paid QB.
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    So looks like the Senior Bowl might have bumped up Josh Allen's stock and quieted some of his critics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moosejaa View Post
    So looks like the Senior Bowl might have bumped up Josh Allen's stock and quited some of his critics.

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    I will be interested to see how he progresses, as I'll be honest, he wasn't that impressive the couple times I saw him this year
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    Quote Originally Posted by rallo View Post
    I will be interested to see how he progresses, as I'll be honest, he wasn't that impressive the couple times I saw him this year
    These guys with all the "tools" don't seem to pan out very often.
    Look at Paxton Lynch and Blaine Gabbert. Doubt they'll ever be more than backups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moosejaa View Post
    These guys with all the "tools" don't seem to pan out very often.
    Look at Paxton Lynch and Blaine Gabbert. Doubt they'll ever be more than backups.

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    Agreed,

    And I know it doesn't really matter, but he went a combined 32-64 for 238yds 3INTs and 0Tds in his two games against power 5 conf opponents... and both of those teams struggled this year (iowa/oregon). I'm not saying that it is a fair barometer, but man, at least throw a TD or average more than 134 yds... I'd take a guy like Mayfield in a heartbeat over this kid...

    Plus, something has to give... there is no way that 5 QBs go in the first round as projected
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    Quote Originally Posted by rallo View Post
    Agreed,

    And I know it doesn't really matter, but he went a combined 32-64 for 238yds 3INTs and 0Tds in his two games against power 5 conf opponents... and both of those teams struggled this year (iowa/oregon). I'm not saying that it is a fair barometer, but man, at least throw a TD or average more than 134 yds... I'd take a guy like Mayfield in a heartbeat over this kid...

    Plus, something has to give... there is no way that 5 QBs go in the first round as projected
    The 5 QBs aren't going to surprise me, might even be 6 with Rosen, Darnold and Allen going top 10 and then Jackson, Mayfield and Rudolph later in the first. A couple teams are gonna reach for guys like they always do with QBs. Probably the only position that happens with. A couple a could fall to the 2nd round though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moosejaa View Post
    The 5 QBs aren't going to surprise me, might even be 6 with Rosen, Darnold and Allen going top 10 and then Jackson, Mayfield and Rudolph later in the first. A couple teams are gonna reach for guys like they always do with QBs. Probably the only position that happens with. A couple a could fall to the 2nd round though.

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    I don't know, in the past 15 years there hasn't been more than 4 QBs taken in the 1st with the average being 2.5... I could see 3 going in the first, but 5 would really surprise me... I could see 2 or 3 of these guys falling to the 2nd
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    Quote Originally Posted by rallo View Post
    I don't know, in the past 15 years there hasn't been more than 4 QBs taken in the 1st with the average being 2.5... I could see 3 going in the first, but 5 would really surprise me... I could see 2 or 3 of these guys falling to the 2nd
    I think Rosen, Darnold and Allen are guaranteed to go.
    Any one of the next three could go too.
    Mayfield is a wildcard and I wonder if Jackson is gonna be the next Watson. Some people rave about him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moosejaa View Post
    I think Rosen, Darnold and Allen are guaranteed to go.
    Any one of the next three could go too.
    Mayfield is a wildcard and I wonder if Jackson is gonna be the next Watson. Some people rave about him.

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    Do you think if the teams early in the draft work these guys out and don't really see any of them as "The guy" then they all drop collectively with Rosen and Darnold still going 1st round while the rest fall to the 2nd or even 3rd to take advantage of value?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rallo View Post
    Do you think if the teams early in the draft work these guys out and don't really see any of them as "The guy" then they all drop collectively with Rosen and Darnold still going 1st round while the rest fall to the 2nd or even 3rd to take advantage of value?
    You never know, but it seems teams reach more when it comes to QBs. I think the off-season moves with the FA QBs like Cousins, Smith, McArron, etc. will effect things too.
    I still think minimum 3 go and teams could reach for Mayfield and Jackson too.
    After all, Bills drafted E.J. in the top half of the 1st round, so anything is possible.

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    I'd love to see the Pats take Mayfield, but the tough thing for us fans is we have no idea how coachable these kids are. Intelligence and ability to learn an NFL offense is just as important as being able to make all the throws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaymo37 View Post
    I'd love to see the Pats take Mayfield, but the tough thing for us fans is we have no idea how coachable these kids are. Intelligence and ability to learn an NFL offense is just as important as being able to make all the throws.
    Doesn't seem like a Belichik type of player, little too much "look at me" attitude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moosejaa View Post
    Doesn't seem like a Belichik type of player, little too much "look at me" attitude.

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    To an extent, but the Patriot system has a way of calming personalities as well. The other way the pats could go, is to wait until round 4ish and take Tanner Lee, who wasn't a great fit at Nebraska, and may have projected much higher had he played in a system more suited for his style.
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