luvagoodshot
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Now that Dick's announced that they will no longer be selling AR-15 rifles, and no guns to anyone under age 21, do you now have more or less respect for them?
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moosejaa
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I had already lost any respect for them with how they handle their golf department.
This isn't going to end well...
I'll just add that I'm curious about potential legal implications and whether or not they would be engaging in age discrimination. They are preventing people from engaging in a constitutional right based on age. One thing that may save them is an inability of plaintiffs to prove damages.
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Definitely not less respect. I'm going to hold out on the more respect, because they did a temp ban on them after Sandy Hook, but then began selling again in Field and Stream stores. They say this one is permanent, and I'm more than OK with that too be honest. I'm not an anti gun person, but it is their store and they have a right to not offer products they don't want to sell.
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I can see this being a problem for them in the courts. Discrimination will bring them nothing but trouble.
They of course have the right to not sell a specific firearm, but I don't think they have a right to discriminate on a legal purchase.
I'm no attorney, so I could be wrong.
That being said, I have no more or less respect for them at this time.
They of course have the right to not sell a specific firearm, but I don't think they have a right to discriminate on a legal purchase.
I'm no attorney, so I could be wrong.
That being said, I have no more or less respect for them at this time.
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Also stopped sale of handguns, basically all semi-auto. Only Field and Stream carried that stuff since 2012, although you could buy ammunition for 9mm and such at DSG.
They have the right to do what they want with their stores and will get praise from one side and backlash from another, both making promises of loyalty and desertion respectively. Doubtful either end holds up their end of the deal 5 years from now, but I hope it continues the dialog toward sensible action to stop these tragedies.
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Less...taking advantage of a horrific trajady to promote themselves publicly.
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Good for them. Hopefully they go thru with what they plan to do...
It’s a start.
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End of the day like being said earlier one side will grill them over it, and the other will prop them up for it. Hoping they stick to what they say and don't go back an forth depending on which way the wind is blowing for them at the time. If you're gonna do something, do it. like i have always have respected a company like Chick-Fil-A for sticking to who they are and not opening on sundays just to appease the masses and get the sales they would benefit from it.
Meh whatever- they've not sold modern sporting rifles since Sandy Hook, so there's no change in policy at Dick's. They're pulling them from Field and Stream, again no big deal as I've not purchased anything firearm related from either place as their prices are usually higher than can be found elsewhere.
As for respect- everyone's entitled to opinions and doing what they feel is best for their business. In that aspect, do what you want.
As for respect- everyone's entitled to opinions and doing what they feel is best for their business. In that aspect, do what you want.
Just to make sure we've tee'd up the question up properly, they are doing two things:
1. Not selling assault weapons
2. Not selling any firearms to people under 21 years of age.
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1. Not selling assault weapons
2. Not selling any firearms to people under 21 years of age.
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Dicks is a for profit business enterprise and as such I think they have the right to determine what products they want to carry and what their inventory should be. Ultimately Dick's senior management will have to answer to the share holders for results their decisions yield. As others have said a key thing for me will be if they don't switch positions down the road.
Regarding the age limit, one analogy I can think of is the majority of car rental companies won't rent to anyone under 25. I don't recall that I have ever read or heard of that being successfully challenged on a discrimination basis.
Regarding the age limit, one analogy I can think of is the majority of car rental companies won't rent to anyone under 25. I don't recall that I have ever read or heard of that being successfully challenged on a discrimination basis.
They stopped selling modern sporting rifles in Dick's stores after Sandy hook. They bought Field and Stream after Sandy Hook, and i think this is simply a way to get publicity on the back of a tragedy.
Here's the thing though, they can do what they want. They're a private entity and can run their business and carry whatever products they want to. In the same vein, people can choose for themselves whether or not to shop there. That's the beauty of America, people can vote more often with dollars than they do at the ballot box. Wait till the socialists realize they're using capitalism to try to get their point across...
Here's the thing though, they can do what they want. They're a private entity and can run their business and carry whatever products they want to. In the same vein, people can choose for themselves whether or not to shop there. That's the beauty of America, people can vote more often with dollars than they do at the ballot box. Wait till the socialists realize they're using capitalism to try to get their point across...
Well we don't have the right to rent a car, and firearm purchase ages are set in federal law in the GCA. I mean, if a gay couple from three hours away can seek out a religious baker and close them down for not making a gay wedding cake, could someone sue a store for not letting them exercise a constitutional right based on their age, while legal under federal law? There's a lot more questions than answers, and frankly, If I were an 18 year old looking for a rifle, I'd just go to a store that wanted my money instead.
luvagoodshot
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Just need to state that the AR in AR-15 does not stand for Assault Rifle. The AR stands for ArmaLite Rifle
While I respect their right to do with their business as they please, it bums me out to for people to virtue signal on this issue. I won't take it to the political level that this conversation is deserving of, but they are barking up the wrong tree with this. I've always thought their stuff was overpriced, so I doubt I'll be back in their store.
Agreed there are a lot more questions than answers. As we have seen anyone can sue for just about anything. Whether or not there is any merit to their claim or grievance is another thing.
The state gun laws (and the restrictions some impose) vary so significantly by state (open carry, concealed carry, purchase permit required/not required, etc) its just hard for me to see a successful challenge to Dick's new policies.
Walmart is in on this ban as well. Less respect but having a wife that is involved in these type of decisions at a large company, I certainly understand why they are doing it. I get tired of all the lazy arguments by the MSM on the gun debate. There is so much ignorance on how effective the different types of firearms are in any given situation. Eventually one of these insane sub-human males is going to choose a shotgun loaded with 3.5" 00 buckshot and send 18 .33 caliber projectiles with each pull of the trigger at velocities higher than a handgun into a crowd of people. I'm sure that will result in hundreds of articles and thousands of hours of TV coverage on why it makes sense to ban all shotguns, semi-auto or not.
I'll make one more point, 26 of the 27 deadliest mass shooters grew up fatherless(only one raised by his biological father since childhood). That is 96.3%!!!!
Is the breakdown of the family structure maybe a problem?? Fatherlessness is indeed a serious problem and it's politically incorrect in most of the MSM to talk about it. TV and Hollywood glorify guns, single parenting, unconventional family structures and are super offended and bewildered if anyone suggests that there is something wrong with raising kids without dad around.
I'll make one more point, 26 of the 27 deadliest mass shooters grew up fatherless(only one raised by his biological father since childhood). That is 96.3%!!!!
Is the breakdown of the family structure maybe a problem?? Fatherlessness is indeed a serious problem and it's politically incorrect in most of the MSM to talk about it. TV and Hollywood glorify guns, single parenting, unconventional family structures and are super offended and bewildered if anyone suggests that there is something wrong with raising kids without dad around.
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bogeyme
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Kroger/Fred Meyer are getting on this "ban" also. I guess it's not as much as a ban but they are changing their "rules" and not selling to anyone under 21.
Kroger/Fred Meyer new gun policy
Kroger/Fred Meyer new gun policy
golfdawg
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To each their own, they can choose how they want to run a business. The issues are so far ranging , that this really won't change anything.
Lynchburg14
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I RESPECT them more for it. I personally don't see the need for the AR-15 don't think it should be legal to have. No one is going hunting with that gun and if they do they are hunting for trophy not for the meat but that is just my opinion. As for the legal buying age I am good with that too. The legal buying age should be the same for every gun and 21 works.
Yes, private business can discriminate to a certain extent. I don't know if they need a rationale.
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