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Im don't mean tour par5 yardages but out here with the masses.
Its hard to give exact yardages for a par5 because obviously each course has multiple tee sets. But lets talk tips (blue on most courses I assume) and then we can kind of guess the yardages from sets of tees that are closer.
I understand that yardage is not always the most required thing for a par5. layouts can also play an important role. Things like forced lay ups, and or elevations and over all layouts can bring integrity to short par5's. But that's not a norm so aside from those kind of rarer occasions do you think most public average courses have par5's that are really too short to be a 5.
From most courses I have played I think too many of them are not really deserving of being a 5. Imo 500ish yards from the tips (which then could be 460 or less from next tee up ) and certainly much less than that as we move ahead to each closer tee.
I just don't think 460 yrd hole is a par5 with integrity. Especially when with some dogleg to it which can then cut off a huge chunk of that yardage. Not that Im trying to make the game any harder. But a 5 is not a 4 nor should it be a 4,5 and there are imo too many par5's out there that are only such because they have just a tad too much to be a 4. To me its similar to a 260 yrd par4 that has nothing of risk involved. Imo that's basically a hole that was a bit too long to be a 3. Same logic with that imo. I think a hole shouldn't move to a 5 just because its only a tad longer than what a 4 should be.
And then also on top of this they also from my experiences tend to very often play the given set of tees up towards the front of the tee area for that set which can shorten it even more. A lot of people will say ..." I like this , its great as it gives me a chance to score well and maybe bird". But honestly then why not just play up a tee (vs what you do play) to begin with? I can appreciate the par or the bird of course as much as anyone regardless and I don't at all always make them on these relatively short par 5's , but honestly its not quite as rewarding when they basically gave me half a par rating to start the hole from the tee to begin when I do make the better score. I just feel like there needs to be more integrity to a number of par5's out there.
What your thoughts.
Its hard to give exact yardages for a par5 because obviously each course has multiple tee sets. But lets talk tips (blue on most courses I assume) and then we can kind of guess the yardages from sets of tees that are closer.
I understand that yardage is not always the most required thing for a par5. layouts can also play an important role. Things like forced lay ups, and or elevations and over all layouts can bring integrity to short par5's. But that's not a norm so aside from those kind of rarer occasions do you think most public average courses have par5's that are really too short to be a 5.
From most courses I have played I think too many of them are not really deserving of being a 5. Imo 500ish yards from the tips (which then could be 460 or less from next tee up ) and certainly much less than that as we move ahead to each closer tee.
I just don't think 460 yrd hole is a par5 with integrity. Especially when with some dogleg to it which can then cut off a huge chunk of that yardage. Not that Im trying to make the game any harder. But a 5 is not a 4 nor should it be a 4,5 and there are imo too many par5's out there that are only such because they have just a tad too much to be a 4. To me its similar to a 260 yrd par4 that has nothing of risk involved. Imo that's basically a hole that was a bit too long to be a 3. Same logic with that imo. I think a hole shouldn't move to a 5 just because its only a tad longer than what a 4 should be.
And then also on top of this they also from my experiences tend to very often play the given set of tees up towards the front of the tee area for that set which can shorten it even more. A lot of people will say ..." I like this , its great as it gives me a chance to score well and maybe bird". But honestly then why not just play up a tee (vs what you do play) to begin with? I can appreciate the par or the bird of course as much as anyone regardless and I don't at all always make them on these relatively short par 5's , but honestly its not quite as rewarding when they basically gave me half a par rating to start the hole from the tee to begin when I do make the better score. I just feel like there needs to be more integrity to a number of par5's out there.
What your thoughts.