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Wasn't he using a Tensei White and then Matrix TPHD on the West Coast this year?
Either way, him going to a Whiteboard is not something completely new for him.
Yep, he has tinkered a fair amount this season.
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Wasn't he using a Tensei White and then Matrix TPHD on the West Coast this year?
Either way, him going to a Whiteboard is not something completely new for him.
Wasn't he using a Tensei White and then Matrix TPHD on the West Coast this year?
Either way, him going to a Whiteboard is not something completely new for him.
I believe so. Was watching replay of golf central and they made the comment he put the shafts from earlier in the season back in. They did mention the loft change from 8.5 to 9.5 as well.
I like it the he understands what he needs to improve accuracy and shows he is all in on tying to win and also get the call from fury that he’s on the Ryder Cup team. I’m a tiger fan and it’s great seeing him in this mentality
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I like that he's been making changes throughout the season. Shows a lack of stubbornness and the desire to get back to the winners circle.
Not a whole lot of shaft endorsement money out there compared to the actual clubheads, etc.
When Tiger went to graphite, approximately 2004, his driver tempo-rhythm suffered. As the years went on it got worse.
I wonder how his performance might be if he went back to his 43.5" steel shafted 975D driver.
Or, maybe a modern driver head with a less stout shaft than what he's been swinging.
I do believe the stoutness of his driver shaft (s) is causing the driver swing tempo-rhythm issues.
When Tiger went to graphite, approximately 2004, his driver tempo-rhythm suffered. As the years went on it got worse.
I wonder how his performance might be if he went back to his 43.5" steel shafted 975D driver.
Or, maybe a modern driver head with a less stout shaft than what he's been swinging.
I do believe the stoutness of his driver shaft (s) is causing the driver swing tempo-rhythm issues.
True, I was just thinking if he found, let’s say a UST Mamiya shaft and a Cobra head and this would be the “perfect” fit for him, if he would say screw it I’m using this
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That said, I don't know that these driving woes are anything more than Tiger's mental game. The way he hits driver and 3w on the range, I really don't think it's a shaft thing.
I could never quite understand why Tiger struggled so much to adjust to better driver technology (i.e., to a graphite shaft and 460cc head). It's clearly in large part a mental issue for him, to be sure, but he was so much more confident swinging a steel-shafted driver with a smaller head. You would think he would've figured it out in the span of almost two decades.
While the large 400CC plus driver heads due offer a few positive factors, one of the downsides is that large of a head does make swinging with a good smooth tempo and rhythm more of a challenge.
I think the last time Tiger displayed his best rhythm-tempo was the 2006 British Open, where out of 72 holes, he only swung driver one time. With driver out of the mix his tempo-rhythm was about perfect all 4 tournament rounds.
If Tiger were to go back to his 43.5" steel shafted 975D it would be interesting to watch his driver swing.
All of this. It's when the adrenaline hits and he starts forcing that little bit extra, it hits the fan. Just like what happens to any of us when we're striping it on the range and then that short walk to the first tee wrecks everything you were doing right.
Honest Q, how does it make swinging with tempo a challenge? I'm legitimately curious.
i guess what i don't understand is why that same adrenaline isn't present when he's hitting irons and wedges? i don't know if the stats bear it out, but man i feel like his irons and wedges are dialed in right now. but to dan's and your point, his swing on the range is MONEY with driver, and often looks very different during the round.
i guess what i don't understand is why that same adrenaline isn't present when he's hitting irons and wedges? i don't know if the stats bear it out, but man i feel like his irons and wedges are dialed in right now. but to dan's and your point, his swing on the range is MONEY with driver, and often looks very different during the round.
I don't know if that's the issue, Tiger has never been great with driver in hand. Other TM staffers seem to do alright with it which brings me back to it being a Tiger swing issue.
I guess the best way I can explain it is by comparing a 200CC 3 wood to a driver head more than twice that size. The larger head size naturally breeds a "hit it hard" instinct.
That said, I've noticed most amateur players rarely swing 3 wood off of a tee box. And on internet forums it's common to read posts where a player claims he "hits his driver straighter than his 3 wood". I think the reason for this is that when a player only tees up a 3 wood once in a blue moon it looks strange to him at a address, and he definitely carries over the hard effort swing he is accustomed to using for his driver, so it doesn't work.
But I think if the player left driver at home and played a round of golf , by the 4th or 5th tee box he will have adjusted, taken the "hit hard" mentality out of his swing, and start to see good 3 wood tee shots.
And after that experience, going forward instead of playing driver off of 13 or 14 tee boxes every round, he might find that his swing tempo-rhythm improves from adopting the habit of swing driver off of
only 5 or 6 tee boxes, per round, 3-wood off of another 5 or 6 tee boxes, and maybe 5-wood , hybrid or driving iron off the other 2 par 4 or par 5 tee boxes.
Wouldn't you want the club that gives you the most room for error, strike-wise? The driver does that with a larger face/higher MOI. Maybe cut it down and play it at a higher loft for forgiveness, but the driver is going to have more margin for error if it's fit well.
My opinion is that the 460CC heads are designed to be played at 45" give or take .5".
I understand some players, including on Tour, have gone down to 44" or less. But getting the head weighting of the modern driver heads heavy enough (to play at 44") gets tricky. Mostly though, I think the 450CC plus heads just look too large and out of balance when paired with a shorter shaft.
As for the MOI stuff, I think a 3 wood , due to both the head size and shaft length, is consistently easier to square at impact than is a 400CC plus size head. So, while 450CC has the MOI, I think it also harder to consistently square at impact.
In general terms I think all the large head , improved MOI designs, whether it be putter, iron model, or driver, are a bit harder to square at impact. But their size and MOI forgiveness hides a slight mishit, meaning the distance and accuracy is not much different from a ball struck purely, so it likely makes good sense to play the large head forgiving designs.