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I replaced my old Cleveland 60* with a rtx 3.0 a couple years ago and since then have struggled with really tight lies. I end up stubbing the club alot. Looking to find correct grind for me. Pics for comparison.
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maybe try the ATV grind on TM milled grind wedges. Looks similar
 
Alez367 said:
maybe try the ATV grind on TM milled grind wedges. Looks similar
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I'll take a peek but trying to stay with Cleveland as I like the weight of the head, durability, and look.

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Look at a Callaway X Grind. Very similar to your old wedge with more bounce. I'm not sure I get what "stubbing" means, but it'd help with some information on your swing and how you use the club as well.
 
i don't know how they got the bounce numbers on the rtx-3 but the leading esge on the rtx-4 sits much lower with the same bounce number

a cheaper option would be the wilson pmp tour grind

the cheapest option would be to take a grinder or a file to the V-sole of the rtx-3
 
I had the same issue when I tried to switch to a Cleveland CBX 60 degree lw. Everything was chunky so I went to a Vokey SM7 S grind and love it. I also got the D grind when I need a little more bounce. My next choice would have been the Callaway MD4 in C grind but I got the Vokey off Ebay and fell in love.


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The_Dude said:
I'll take a peek but trying to stay with Cleveland as I like the weight of the head, durability, and look.

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No problem. Decided to go straight to the source and tweeted Noelle for help getting current model product with similar grind for you. But with @JB and @schanker @tomcat there at HQ today or tomorrow, I’m sure you’ll have an answer soon from one of the 4.


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tpluff said:
Look at a Callaway X Grind. Very similar to your old wedge with more bounce. I'm not sure I get what "stubbing" means, but it'd help with some information on your swing and how you use the club as well.
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Stubbing=digging in. I almost never take full swing with this club, used primarily greenside, in bunkers, and touch shots from short of the green. I tend to get steep with this club and will sometimes go right under the ball. I played old 60* last time out and it seems to "slide" better.
 
Alez367 said:
No problem. Decided to go straight to the source and tweeted Noelle for help getting current model product with similar grind for you. But with @JB and @schanker @tomcat there at HQ today or tomorrow, I’m sure you’ll have an answer soon from one of the 4.


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We'll be there tomorrow starting at 9 am PST. Hopefully, I'll become very knowledge on the subject. But with what I think I know now, it sounds like you need more bounce. I have the opposite problem, I'm more likely to thin one over the green because I can be too shallow.
 
The_Dude said:
I'll take a peek but trying to stay with Cleveland as I like the weight of the head, durability, and look.

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Alez367 said:
No problem. Decided to go straight to the source and tweeted Noelle for help getting current model product with similar grind for you. But with @JB and @schanker @tomcat there at HQ today or tomorrow, I’m sure you’ll have an answer soon from one of the 4.


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Schanker said:
We'll be there tomorrow starting at 9 am PST. Hopefully, I'll become very knowledge on the subject. But with what I think I know now, it sounds like you need more bounce. I have the opposite problem, I'm more likely to thin one over the green because I can be too shallow.
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Looks like Schanker was correct. Here is Noelle’s response
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Typically for tight lies I think you would want to go with a lower bounce wedge. Your RTX-3 looks to be a "2-dot" which is their standard bounce. You might try the "1-dot", which is their low bounce. I've got Cleveland RTX-2.0 wedges. and my 60 is a low bounce "1=dot". It works great from hard tight lies, light to moderate rough, and the almost sandless bunkers so many of the courses around here have (minimum sand over hard-pan). The one lie that is a killer for this wedge, for me at least, is the tight lie with soft ground, in which case I'll go to a different wedge with more bounce.
 
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The_Dude said:
Stubbing=digging in. I almost never take full swing with this club, used primarily greenside, in bunkers, and touch shots from short of the green. I tend to get steep with this club and will sometimes go right under the ball. I played old 60* last time out and it seems to "slide" better.
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More bounce! I'd consider something with at least 11* of bounce with that heel and toe relief. The Callaway X Grind is just that [and it's designed by a guy named Cleveland (RFC!!!)]. I hate to say it but there are no options in the RTX4 with a lot of bounce and what they have in bounce is in the CBX, which is probably not what you are looking for in shape. Maybe a FULL RTX-4 would do the trick you need, but that might be sacrificing a little bit of versatility in opening the face and such.
 
Screw it -- if you're "stubbing", I take it to mean you're digging. I assume you want a wedge that goes smoothly through the turf and is good in tight lies.

At the same time, I invariably will get a "stub" when I use too much arm, not enough turn through the ball.

Both of those soles look fairly narrow. You don't need a narrow sole to work on tight lies. I'm proof. See my signature - 60-10 with relief. Perhaps take a look at a slightly wider sole with relief at the heel and trailing edge and a rounded leading edge so it does not dig as easily with about 8-10 of bounce.
 
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