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    Quote Originally Posted by PatsFan View Post
    Details folks atleast get them correct! The State Lied in order to obtain the Video. There was NO Trafficking .
    He's guilty of getting a Handy nothing more nothing less. Jussie Smollett got away with 16 Felonys where is your outrage????

    Or is it just a Old white guy gets peoples hair up??? What Jussie Smollett did was far worse yet no one seems to care.

    Their is some speculation that the Defendants have legal recourse to Sue since their right were Violated.
    I will +1 everything BigDill said, as a fellow MU lawyer. :)

    Also, c'mon, man... The reports are the video showed more than Kraft getting a "handy." And I've witnessed FAR more outrage over the Smollett case than the Kraft case. People more or less are making fun of Kraft, and now pointing out how defendants who can afford high-priced attorneys are more likely to receive "justice" than those who can't. There is a lot of outrage over the Smollett case from people of all races and socio-economic backgrounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMB3 View Post
    I will +1 everything BigDill said, as a fellow MU lawyer. :)

    Also, c'mon, man... The reports are the video showed more than Kraft getting a "handy." And I've witnessed FAR more outrage over the Smollett case than the Kraft case. People more or less are making fun of Kraft, and now pointing out how defendants who can afford high-priced attorneys are more likely to receive "justice" than those who can't. There is a lot of outrage over the Smollett case from people of all races and socio-economic backgrounds.
    I am not saying That Kraft did NO wrong. I am saying the DA and Police over reached and now all the Johns are going to get off due to it.
    Kraft and all these other men are guilty of a Misdemeanor charge. The DA and Police chief are the ones who had a big press conference and splashed Human Trafficking up on the screen and you just expect these men to lay down and take it?

    The Smollett case involved 16 Felony not Misdemeanor charges.

    This is a Privacy issue and before people just give away their privacy you should think twice. How about the Women who went there for a real massage and were video taped undressing, Are you ok with that? What if it was your wife or Mother or You? You didn't solicit yet your 4th amendment rights were violated.

    All the evidence from that warrant is tossed. The Video and all the Car stops where they obtained his name along with all the other Johns is out.

    BK will still be suspended and fined by the NFL and his reputation is forever tarnished in the minds of many but that is the price for fame and fortune I guess.

    Hopefully this saga will come to an end sooner rather than later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PatsFan View Post
    I am not saying That Kraft did NO wrong. I am saying the DA and Police over reached and now all the Johns are going to get off due to it.
    Kraft and all these other men are guilty of a Misdemeanor charge. The DA and Police chief are the ones who had a big press conference and splashed Human Trafficking up on the screen and you just expect these men to lay down and take it?

    The Smollett case involved 16 Felony not Misdemeanor charges.

    This is a Privacy issue and before people just give away their privacy you should think twice. How about the Women who went there for a real massage and were video taped undressing, Are you ok with that? What if it was your wife or Mother or You? You didn't solicit yet your 4th amendment rights were violated.

    All the evidence from that warrant is tossed. The Video and all the Car stops where they obtained his name along with all the other Johns is out.

    BK will still be suspended and fined by the NFL and his reputation is forever tarnished in the minds of many but that is the price for fame and fortune I guess.

    Hopefully this saga will come to an end sooner rather than later.
    I'm with you on the Fourth Amendment. If the video surveillance failed to satisfy the constitutional standard, it was rightly found inadmissible. There will always be jokes, but I feel like this will "blow" over soon enough, if it hasn't already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMB3 View Post
    I'm with you on the Fourth Amendment. If the video surveillance failed to satisfy the constitutional standard, it was rightly found inadmissible. There will always be jokes, but I feel like this will "blow" over soon enough, if it hasn't already.
    Its that they lied to get the video surveillance in the first place. Something about poisoned fruit, I am sure one of the Lawyers here can tell us?

    What I find laughable is the same people that want Kraft crucified are the same one defending Jussie Smollett but both cases are examples of the Rich and Famous getting away with something.

    If the DA and Sheriff hadn't had the Bogus press conference pounding their chests announcing the Human Trafficiking ring, This wouldn't be such a big deal but most americans have short attention spans and will only remember the Part that was made up by the DA and Sheriff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PatsFan View Post

    Or is it just a Old white guy gets peoples hair up??? What Jussie Smollett did was far worse yet no one seems to care.
    Umm, pretty much everybody has called out the prosecution in this case for being incompetent. Chris Rock roasted him during the freaking BET Awards.
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    It’s interesting what camps people take... especially the “he’s just a rich guy using his wealth to get off”.

    To me, it highlights another aspect of socio-economics, how many people suffer when DA’s and police skirt the rules and someone just doesn’t have the resources to expose those short cuts.


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