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    Quote Originally Posted by mielke101 View Post
    The rule itself makes sense, but like basically everyone has said, he didn't break the rule, he was doing what was needed to be done. This is one of the reasons people are turned away by golf, they see something like this.
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    ......I highly doubt that. Some guy that plays on the weekends sees this isn't going to go "oh man that was BS......im not going to play golf again cause of it".....when he adjusted his driver 4 times during his round that morning
    I agree with 2B.. Anyone who cares enough about the game to read about Harold Varner III isn't going to give up the game based on this.

    It does make the process look stupid, and that it is at the fault of an official/scorer/volunteer should not cost the player any strokes.... But once again, the rules do not stipulate that, and they are required to follow them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadan View Post
    I agree with 2B.. Anyone who cares enough about the game to read about Harold Varner III isn't going to give up the game based on this.

    It does make the process look stupid, and that it is at the fault of an official/scorer/volunteer should not cost the player any strokes.... But once again, the rules do not stipulate that, and they are required to follow them.
    Wasn't really referring to people who already care or love the game, probably just bad wording on my part and that's my bad, guess trying to say with penalties like this it's hard to grow the game? Does that make more sense?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mielke101 View Post
    Wasn't really referring to people who already care or love the game, probably just bad wording on my part and that's my bad, guess trying to say with penalties like this it's hard to grow the game? Does that make more sense?
    I absolutely see what you're saying, I just see this ruling as something that isn't visible to the non-avid golfer.

    Sure, they had a quick chat with the governing body about it (and Faldo was obviously bothered) but it's not like it was a Sunday afternoon where most are participating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadan View Post
    I absolutely see what you're saying, I just see this ruling as something that isn't visible to the non-avid golfer.

    Sure, they had a quick chat with the governing body about it (and Faldo was obviously bothered) but it's not like it was a Sunday afternoon where most are participating.
    I don't think it was this rule specifically that is bothering most people (well, at least not me). It's the interpretation of any rule such that a player can do everything "right" (Varner did his best to abide by the rules) and yet still get assessed a penalty for the actions of someone else. This just makes it seem the rules are "random", hard to follow, and those that aren't already golfing would ask themselves how could I ever play that silly game with all those stupid rules...

    As someone else already mentioned, there should be some intent behind some of these more obscure rules.
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    Seems like a dumb rule. (To me.) What is the big deal if everyone in the tourney adjusts their driver? It's still a level playing field. I doubt it will be a pace-of-play issue, since most guys won't tweak their clubs all that much after the first hole, or even at all.
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    Harsh on Varner but I do get it.

    If (and I’m sure he didn’t) Varner had realised that the course was playing a certain way, fast / slow, various holes down / into wind, or that his swing that day was moving the ball left or right, he could have got his agent to knock the driver up or down a degree or adjust the draw/fade bias. I’m sure he wouldn’t but it’s possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mielke101 View Post
    Wasn't really referring to people who already care or love the game, probably just bad wording on my part and that's my bad, guess trying to say with penalties like this it's hard to grow the game? Does that make more sense?
    I agree, every time there is one of these ridiculous rulings the local radio stations talk about how stupid it is and that is why they don't watch much golf. The only other time golf is discussed is during a major or big tiger news.

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