Ordered the Black Matte 64 in a KBS 610 120g at +1/4 inch, 1 deg flat. I prefer not to open a 64, but think that high toe may help in certain conditions/shots. The 610 should keep launch down and offer spin. We will see. The rounded edge should nip the ball off tight lies. Will be interesting. I've played a 62 before, we will see what a 64 does for shots around baked greens. Ordered the Black because I thought the shape would be less distracting in black matte.