golfdawg
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Seems from what i have been reading, and watching that my Toe Down number of 9 is pretty severe , and wonder if it's more if showing i have a swing flaw.
Mizuno Shaft optimizer - mind sharing your numbers and thoughts
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I haven’t used it, but am interested after seeing the TXG YouTube video of the new version/software.
The severe toe down is more than likely due to significant early extension/loss of spine angle. It causes you to raise the club handle through impact.
My toe down value was 4 and the optimizer recommended a lie angle of like 4 degrees upright or thereabouts.
I can tell you I don't actually play lie angle anywhere near that upright. I tend to play 1 degree flat. Perhaps I'm in chicken or the egg situation whereby I have a swing flaw that I use lie angle to correct. Perhaps if my clubs were more upright, it would help me correct my swing flaw.....dunno. For now, I'm still playing std or slightly flat lies. I hate seeing a golf ball go left.
My values are:
91Mph head speed, 5 tempo, 4 toe down, 1 kick angle, 5 release
I can tell you I don't actually play lie angle anywhere near that upright. I tend to play 1 degree flat. Perhaps I'm in chicken or the egg situation whereby I have a swing flaw that I use lie angle to correct. Perhaps if my clubs were more upright, it would help me correct my swing flaw.....dunno. For now, I'm still playing std or slightly flat lies. I hate seeing a golf ball go left.
My values are:
91Mph head speed, 5 tempo, 4 toe down, 1 kick angle, 5 release
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have you seen the stuff on the new version? It's pretty sweet with the updates they did to them.
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no, I haven't. Not sure which version my course has but I have to think it's the most up to date option.
Hopefully I can check it out by the end of the weekend. Sounds like fun.
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new one has a white strip down the middle, and now has a Gyro init to help identify the lie angle .
TXG recent video on it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gGbKrI30_A
I used it a couple times. I thought it was pretty accurate in determining my shaft options. Keep in mind they are a starting point in fitting. My first option was c taper x.
In the end I went with z forged $ taper x.
I hope one day mizuno will load a ton more shaft profiles on the program and I feel their shaft offering is very limited and again I enjoyed seeing the data and using it to point me in the right direction for fitting.
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In the end I went with z forged $ taper x.
I hope one day mizuno will load a ton more shaft profiles on the program and I feel their shaft offering is very limited and again I enjoyed seeing the data and using it to point me in the right direction for fitting.
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They briefly mention it in the TXG video, but it should be noted that Mizuno is typically 1* flatter when compared to most other OEM's. So 2* up on a Mizuno would only be 1* up for a lot of brands.
I played my MP-5's at 1* flat, so my PXG's are set to 2* flat. And as NoShanks wrote, it's all just a starting point. Ping's static fitting measurements say I should play 1* flat from their standard (so 1* flat in my PXG), but through fittings I found that 2* flat produced better results.
I even tested again when I bought my current set by ordering them at stock lie. I really struggled with overdraws that wanted to start left and keep going left. I played them that way for a few months before getting them bent and immediately saw improvement in my ball flight and scores.
I played my MP-5's at 1* flat, so my PXG's are set to 2* flat. And as NoShanks wrote, it's all just a starting point. Ping's static fitting measurements say I should play 1* flat from their standard (so 1* flat in my PXG), but through fittings I found that 2* flat produced better results.
I even tested again when I bought my current set by ordering them at stock lie. I really struggled with overdraws that wanted to start left and keep going left. I played them that way for a few months before getting them bent and immediately saw improvement in my ball flight and scores.
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yea took that into account, as i also asked TXG a few days ago, about my 63 lie angle, they said 2 up compared to the 61.5 of the Hot Metal Pro, so in looking at Cobra irons, the F9 7 iron is already 63.5, so when i do order them, i will start 1 degree flat to 62.5 . So many variables between manufacturers, that you really need to know your numbers.
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that is true, but stock length for a manufacturer also plays a role. Going 1/2 inch long changes the way the club sits at address.
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I believe I was told 1up for every half inch to maintain neutral. Not sure how accurate that is.
But it begs the question... What's stock length to begin that haha
I got fitted today using the Mizuno Shaft optimizer! It is real deal! Shop owner guessed everything by watching my swing and then the shaft optimizer proved what he said. It's a great tool!