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    I got fitted for some irons (5-AW) and now wanting to get a SW and LW. Should I get the SW and LW the same fittings as the iron recommendations or should I just buy standard wedges?

    my fitting recommendation was 2 degrees upright and plus 1/2 inch on shaft length.

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    Quote Originally Posted by merlebo02 View Post
    I got fitted for some irons (5-AW) and now wanting to get a SW and LW. Should I get the SW and LW the same fittings as the iron recommendations or should I just buy standard wedges?

    my fitting recommendation was 2 degrees upright and plus 1/2 inch on shaft length.
    I was fit for a full bag as part of the 2019 Morgan Cup with Cobra/Puma. The fitter recommended 1 up on my irons, so I went ahead and ordered the same on my wedges.
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    F9 10.5* with Atmos TS Blue 6R
    3-4W & 5-6W with Atmos TS Blue 6R
    4H with Atmos TS Black 7R
    5-GW ForgedTEC Black with Tour 90 R flex
    56 and 60* King Black wedges with Tour 90 R Flex
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    I get wedges to the same specs as the irons I'm fit for.


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    I think it depends on the OEM, some have different lie angles and lengths to start with.
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    CBX 119 20* hybrid with EvenFlow Blue 70g 6.0
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    Hi Toe 60 KBS Wedge 2.0
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    Quote Originally Posted by merlebo02 View Post
    I got fitted for some irons (5-AW) and now wanting to get a SW and LW. Should I get the SW and LW the same fittings as the iron recommendations or should I just buy standard wedges?

    my fitting recommendation was 2 degrees upright and plus 1/2 inch on shaft length.
    I suggest you play your wedges at plus .5" length (same as your iron set), but have the wedges be of standard lie angle.
    Upright lie angle wedges , because of their tendency to promote left biased shots, just make consistently good green side chipping and pitching too much of a challenge.
    Driver: Ping G400 LST Graphite Design Tour AD IZ 6S
    Fairway metals: Cleveland Launcher HB 15* Miyazaki C.Kua 5S
    Hybrid: Cleveland Launcher HB 19* Miyazaki C.Kua 6S
    Irons: Ping G700 4-SW Project X LZ 5.5
    Wedge: Ping G400 58* LW Project X LZ 5.5
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    Quote Originally Posted by merlebo02 View Post
    I got fitted for some irons (5-AW) and now wanting to get a SW and LW. Should I get the SW and LW the same fittings as the iron recommendations or should I just buy standard wedges?

    my fitting recommendation was 2 degrees upright and plus 1/2 inch on shaft length.
    When I was fit at Bridgestone they also had the wedges match the same specs at my irons 1* upright and 1/2" long.
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    Hybrids: JGR 3h/4h ( AD DI)
    Irons: HF2 5-AW ( Modus3 Tour 120 stiff)
    Wedges: Tour B XW-1 56/60 ( Modus3 Tour 120 stiff)
    Putter: Sqaureback Select
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    Quote Originally Posted by DG_1234 View Post
    I suggest you play your wedges at plus .5" length (same as your iron set), but have the wedges be of standard lie angle.
    Upright lie angle wedges , because of their tendency to promote left biased shots, just make consistently good green side chipping and pitching too much of a challenge.
    If the wedges are made to the same "spec" as the irons, then they wont be "upright" for him... they'll just be "right".

    I can't imagine why anyone would wanna play with wedges that are too flat for them. I've been there and too many shots end up right of target.

    Lie angle matters much more on higher lofted clubs so it only stands to reason that you'd want your highest lofted clubs to be right.

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    Epic Flash SZ 3wd w/ Rogue Max 85X @ 42.5"
    M4 5wd w/ HZRDUS Black 6.0 @ 42"
    Dynacraft Genesis 4h w/ LZ 6.0
    :Wishon: 550c 5-6 & 550m 7-PW w/ Modus3 Tour 120 stiff shafts
    Titleist Vokey SM6 52F, 56F, 60L w/ Modus3 125 wedge shafts
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    Stroke Lab Marxman @ 33" w/ Flatso 3.0
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    Quote Originally Posted by OGputtnfool View Post
    If the wedges are made to the same "spec" as the irons, then they wont be "upright" for him... they'll just be "right".

    I can't imagine why anyone would wanna play with wedges that are too flat for them. I've been there and too many shots end up right of target.

    Lie angle matters much more on higher lofted clubs so it only stands to reason that you'd want your highest lofted clubs to be right.

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    Most of the best players in the world have lie angles on their wedges that are flatter (relative to the length of the club) than any of their other clubs.

    It's nothing to do with which direction the face points due to a toe-up or toe-down position. It's to do with turf contact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Et Tu Brute? View Post
    Most of the best players in the world have lie angles on their wedges that are flatter (relative to the length of the club) than any of their other clubs.

    It's nothing to do with which direction the face points due to a toe-up or toe-down position. It's to do with turf contact.
    Sorry. I didn't realize we were talking about the best players in the world. I thought we were talking about us average hackers.

    Also, I'd doubt that many (if any) pros have wedges that are effectively 3 flatter than their irons.
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    M1 440 9.5 w/ HZRDUS Black 6.0 @ 44.75"
    Epic Flash SZ 3wd w/ Rogue Max 85X @ 42.5"
    M4 5wd w/ HZRDUS Black 6.0 @ 42"
    Dynacraft Genesis 4h w/ LZ 6.0
    :Wishon: 550c 5-6 & 550m 7-PW w/ Modus3 Tour 120 stiff shafts
    Titleist Vokey SM6 52F, 56F, 60L w/ Modus3 125 wedge shafts
    Tour Velvet & ChromeSoft X / Snell MTB
    Stroke Lab Marxman @ 33" w/ Flatso 3.0
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    From an article I read many years ago (in a previous century ;-) it said the norm was around two degree flat.

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    I believe in matched (to the rest of the ) iron set wedges. My theory is whats good for my irons should simply follow suit for the wedges. I also feel that holds true for GI type pf iron heads, why all of a sudden are we somehow better with a blade when its on a wedge?

    My older set (cobras) I had matched set wedges except at the time they discontinued the LW so i had a different one by default.
    My new current set of Ping g400's I also have a matched set down to the SW. The only reason I went with a cleveland CBX (cavity back) LW was because i wanted one wedge with a lower bounce for the tighter lies especially in the firm , thin or wet sand. Were it not for that I would have bought the whole G400 iron set right down to the LW. But fwiw I did get the cbx wedge with same shaft and lie angle and length that my set LW would have been.
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    I go back and forth on it. For a long time, I'd wear out a three-wedge set of Vokeys every couple of years and just order replacements as close to identical specs as I could get.

    Now I'm more comfortable with a wedge set that is simply an extension of whatever irons (Callaways, Pings, Mizunos) I'm playing at the time. But I have a nearly new set of GW/SW/LW Vokey SM7's in the closet that I'm *constantly* tempted to pull out.

    For me, going from full swings with a Super Game Improvement iron with a 100g shaft to a smaller-headed Vokey with 130g Dynamic Gold shaft for, say, a full swing SW shot just feels funny. The weight difference alone affects my timing. Plus the visual difference lining it up. But on short shots around the greens or from bunkers and rough I very much prefer the extra heft and compact head.

    Given that I usually carry just 12 clubs, I guess it wouldn't be crazy to carry my JPX 900 Hot Metal irons up through the SW and also carry a 52/56/60 set of SM7's for around the greens. OK, that would be crazy.

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