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    Quote Originally Posted by JB View Post
    I guess to me this sounds very much like it depends golfer to golfer. Completely based on an individuals launch conditions.
    I suppose if you want to look at it that way but at the same time it isn't a subjective thing.

    For example what golf club looks better will depend from golfer to golfer. Some may prefer a larger headed black burner 2.0 iron, others might prefer a smaller blade look.

    Proper launch, spin, and landing angle numbers are not subjective though. A tall skinny guy swinging the club 100 mph will have the exact same ideal numbers as a short fat guy swining the club 100 mph.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grantc79 View Post
    I suppose if you want to look at it that way but at the same time it isn't a subjective thing.

    For example what golf club looks better will depend from golfer to golfer. Some may prefer a larger headed black burner 2.0 iron, others might prefer a smaller blade look.

    Proper launch, spin, and landing angle numbers are not subjective though. A tall skinny guy swinging the club 100 mph will have the exact same ideal numbers as a short fat guy swining the club 100 mph.
    Except both will have very different tempos and may need different shafts because of that. You are correct in that launch perimeters should be similar.
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    Absolutely, the same swing speed on the two guys with different releases, different angles of attack, and different club paths will produce drastically different results.

    That is why it is so important to be properly fit.

    Most people would hit a 5 year old driver that they are properly fit for better than the latest and greatest club that just doesn't match their swing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    I'm excited to see what my numbers are after some hard work this offseason. I really want to work on getting my launch angle and swing speed a bit better and reduce side spin dramatically. I'm really inefficient with my driver swing and am looking forward to having somebody look at it. I think it should be a pretty easy fix once I can learn the positions to get my body in.
    You and I are in a very similar situation! I'm very much looking forward to getting on the THP Vector and finally getting some of my stuff properly worked out. Probably the thing I'm looking forward to most at Demo Day.
    In My 2010 Syncro

    Driver: R9 SuperTri 9.5 w/ UST Mamiya ATTAS 6R
    Fairway Woods: Launcher FL Ultralite 3-17, 7-22
    Hybrids: Testing Rescue 11 4-21, 4DX Evolver 4-23
    Irons: VR Full Cavity 5-PW w/ True Temper DG High Launch R300
    Wedges: xFT 50, 58 w/ True Temper DG Spinners*
    Putter: Rossa Corza Ghost*
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    Oh, I'm planning on having that done before I get to WPB via some lessons. It won't do me much good to just get on the Vector. I already know my current driver swing sucks hehe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 9-Iron Man View Post
    You and I are in a very similar situation! I'm very much looking forward to getting on the THP Vector and finally getting some of my stuff properly worked out. Probably the thing I'm looking forward to most at Demo Day.
    Im glad you are excited. We will have someone there to assist in getting you the info. Please do keep in mind though that without the repeatable swing aspect of it, the numbers mean very little. Once your swing is similar each time (especially with the driver) then I would dive into the spin and launch characteristics. Without that repeatable swing, a proper fitting will do no justice as it will change with each turn.
    In my 2018 #TheGrandaddy THP Event Bag

    Driver:
    Epic Flash w/ Helium Shaft 45"
    Driver 2: XXIO Prime w/
    Custom THP HZRDUS Shaft 43.5"
    Fairway Wood:
    JGR
    Hybrids:
    Launcher HB
    Irons: Apex 19 w/ Recoil Proto 95
    Wedges:
    CBX 50* and RTX-4 56* & 60* PM Grind 19
    Putter:
    #7S
    Balls:
    Chrome Soft X

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    Quote Originally Posted by JB View Post
    Im glad you are excited. We will have someone there to assist in getting you the info. Please do keep in mind though that without the repeatable swing aspect of it, the numbers mean very little. Once your swing is similar each time (especially with the driver) then I would dive into the spin and launch characteristics. Without that repeatable swing, a proper fitting will do no justice as it will change with each turn.
    Now when you say "repeatable" are you strictly meaning consistent, or a proper swing, in which the ball launches straight with minimal slice or hook? Or both?
    In My 2010 Syncro

    Driver: R9 SuperTri 9.5 w/ UST Mamiya ATTAS 6R
    Fairway Woods: Launcher FL Ultralite 3-17, 7-22
    Hybrids: Testing Rescue 11 4-21, 4DX Evolver 4-23
    Irons: VR Full Cavity 5-PW w/ True Temper DG High Launch R300
    Wedges: xFT 50, 58 w/ True Temper DG Spinners*
    Putter: Rossa Corza Ghost*
    Ball: e6 Yellow


    Thanks to TaylorMade and THP | * Sparkle Red Coated

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9-Iron Man View Post
    Now when you say "repeatable" are you strictly meaning consistent, or a proper swing, in which the ball launches straight with minimal slice or hook? Or both?
    Consistent, but proper helps as well of course. But in reality you must have a consistent swing to get proper measurements.
    In my 2018 #TheGrandaddy THP Event Bag

    Driver:
    Epic Flash w/ Helium Shaft 45"
    Driver 2: XXIO Prime w/
    Custom THP HZRDUS Shaft 43.5"
    Fairway Wood:
    JGR
    Hybrids:
    Launcher HB
    Irons: Apex 19 w/ Recoil Proto 95
    Wedges:
    CBX 50* and RTX-4 56* & 60* PM Grind 19
    Putter:
    #7S
    Balls:
    Chrome Soft X

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    Quote Originally Posted by grantc79 View Post
    It doesn't depend from golfer to golfer, it depends based on launch angle and swing speed/ball speed.

    Bear with me this gets complex and long winded......

    The faster the ball speed/swing speed the lower you will want to launch and lowest spin you will want, reason being that the sheer speed of the ball will launch it to a respectable height.

    Conversely the lower the ball/swing speed the higher you will want to launch the ball and higher spin you will want for a little more carry distance.

    A high swing speed player might want a launch angle of 10 degrees or so and a spin rate of about 2300 where as a slower swing speed player might want a launch of about 14 degrees and a spin rate of around 2800.

    Both would want a landing angle of about 35 degrees for maximum roll out as well.
    That wasn't too complex or long-winded. (To me, at least) This sounds like what I was told during my driver fitting. For my swing speed of ~96 mph, he wanted my launch angle around 15 and a spin rate around 3000 rpm. That would produce a ball flight that has a landing angle around the 35 you mentioned, which was also brought up by the club-fitter. He mentioned how many people forget about the importance of landing angle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JB View Post
    Consistent, but proper helps as well of course. But in reality you must have a consistent swing to get proper measurements.
    At the moment, my "consistent" swing is a pretty bad slice. I am trying to work on it, but due the weather up here and minimal places to work on it, there's not too much I can do about it at the moment. Assuming that come Outing time, my swing is still more or less unchanged, will I be able to look at club and shaft options to help me?
    In My 2010 Syncro

    Driver: R9 SuperTri 9.5 w/ UST Mamiya ATTAS 6R
    Fairway Woods: Launcher FL Ultralite 3-17, 7-22
    Hybrids: Testing Rescue 11 4-21, 4DX Evolver 4-23
    Irons: VR Full Cavity 5-PW w/ True Temper DG High Launch R300
    Wedges: xFT 50, 58 w/ True Temper DG Spinners*
    Putter: Rossa Corza Ghost*
    Ball: e6 Yellow


    Thanks to TaylorMade and THP | * Sparkle Red Coated

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9-Iron Man View Post
    At the moment, my "consistent" swing is a pretty bad slice. I am trying to work on it, but due the weather up here and minimal places to work on it, there's not too much I can do about it at the moment. Assuming that come Outing time, my swing is still more or less unchanged, will I be able to look at club and shaft options to help me?
    Yes, but due keep in mind that choosing a club and shaft for an inconsistent swing may do more harm than good. Your best bet is to stick with what you have and work with it as much as possible to gain some consistency. Once there, choose for optimization.

    Getting fit is a crucial part of the game and helps everybody, and I have played with you and the driver and shaft you have now should be no issue whatsoever.
    In my 2018 #TheGrandaddy THP Event Bag

    Driver:
    Epic Flash w/ Helium Shaft 45"
    Driver 2: XXIO Prime w/
    Custom THP HZRDUS Shaft 43.5"
    Fairway Wood:
    JGR
    Hybrids:
    Launcher HB
    Irons: Apex 19 w/ Recoil Proto 95
    Wedges:
    CBX 50* and RTX-4 56* & 60* PM Grind 19
    Putter:
    #7S
    Balls:
    Chrome Soft X

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    Quote Originally Posted by JB View Post
    Yes, but due keep in mind that choosing a club and shaft for an inconsistent swing may do more harm than good. Your best bet is to stick with what you have and work with it as much as possible to gain some consistency. Once there, choose for optimization.

    Getting fit is a crucial part of the game and helps everybody, and I have played with you and the driver and shaft you have now should be no issue whatsoever.
    I understand, thanks JB. Once the snow clears up here, I'll be goin full bore to work on my swing. I hope to have it in a better place by the time the Outing rolls around. I haven't had a lot of opportunity to hit my current setup for obvious reasons, but I do like what I see so far. I hope with a bit more work, it will be even better.
    In My 2010 Syncro

    Driver: R9 SuperTri 9.5 w/ UST Mamiya ATTAS 6R
    Fairway Woods: Launcher FL Ultralite 3-17, 7-22
    Hybrids: Testing Rescue 11 4-21, 4DX Evolver 4-23
    Irons: VR Full Cavity 5-PW w/ True Temper DG High Launch R300
    Wedges: xFT 50, 58 w/ True Temper DG Spinners*
    Putter: Rossa Corza Ghost*
    Ball: e6 Yellow


    Thanks to TaylorMade and THP | * Sparkle Red Coated

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