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I havent been following all of the games but I caught that okc game last night and damn it was awesome. Durant and Curry are both so talented but Curry is just incredible to watch. He lights it up from everywhere.
 
Otis32 said:
Cuban in favor of moving the three point line back.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/241000/mark-cuban-in-favor-of-moving-the-three-point-line-back

Self serving anti-warrior opinion? Honest question regarding a part of the game that is getting out of hand (NBA is on track this year to set a record for 3-point attempts)?

I honestly think the idea of just moving the shot back 1-2' would actually help the Warriors more than any other team. They have two guys that can still shoot a very high percentage from 25ish feet and the way they space the floor and share the ball a wider court (needed to increase the length of the corner three) would help them even more.

Have been discussing this on another board and to me the better option may be to just extend the current line out to the sideline and eliminate the corner 3 altogether. That shot is the most open and most disproportionately efficient shot in the game. It creates too big a place in the game for catch & shoot 22' specialists, over rewards some pretty simple offensive strategies and has a big negative impact on the dying mid-range game.

Thoughts?
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They said Curry was shooting 64% from over 28ft this season lol thats absolutely ridiculous. Move won't hurt him haha
 
Otis32 said:
Cuban in favor of moving the three point line back.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/241000/mark-cuban-in-favor-of-moving-the-three-point-line-back

Self serving anti-warrior opinion? Honest question regarding a part of the game that is getting out of hand (NBA is on track this year to set a record for 3-point attempts)?

I honestly think the idea of just moving the shot back 1-2' would actually help the Warriors more than any other team. They have two guys that can still shoot a very high percentage from 25ish feet and the way they space the floor and share the ball a wider court (needed to increase the length of the corner three) would help them even more.

Have been discussing this on another board and to me the better option may be to just extend the current line out to the sideline and eliminate the corner 3 altogether. That shot is the most open and most disproportionately efficient shot in the game. It creates too big a place in the game for catch & shoot 22' specialists, over rewards some pretty simple offensive strategies and has a big negative impact on the dying mid-range game.

Thoughts?
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I'm not sure if moving the line back does anything. Players will continue to improve shooting from where ever the line is moved to. Moving the line out to the point where it eliminates the corner three only takes away a small percentage of the 3's taken/made when I look at some shot charts. Cuban mentioned that it's too close and moving it back would open the game up a little more. I don't really agree with that because the court still has the same playing area. If you move the line back a foot, you're still playing in the same area and guys will still be able to collapse on drives. What would be interesting would be his take on expanding the size of the court and removing a row of seats to accommodate this.

This kind of reminds me when they talked about raising the rim to 12' because they thought the players could jump too high.
 
I just turned the game on at that point
 
adamw238 said:
I'm not sure if moving the line back does anything. Players will continue to improve shooting from where ever the line is moved to. Moving the line out to the point where it eliminates the corner three only takes away a small percentage of the 3's taken/made when I look at some shot charts. Cuban mentioned that it's too close and moving it back would open the game up a little more. I don't really agree with that because the court still has the same playing area. If you move the line back a foot, you're still playing in the same area and guys will still be able to collapse on drives. What would be interesting would be his take on expanding the size of the court and removing a row of seats to accommodate this.

This kind of reminds me when they talked about raising the rim to 12' because they thought the players could jump too high.
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Actually about 25% of all threes are taken from the corner and league wide players make them at around a 39% clip. The corner three is the most efficient shot in the league and even out performs attempts from the low paint. (look at a site called Nylon Calculus. They have some great stuff out there)

Basketball is a dynamic game and one can't just think in terms of shooting adaptations. Defenses will adapt too. By removing the corner three teams can increase focus on defending the straight-up three area out past the arc (3rd most efficient shot attempt) and force teams to choose wing 3's attempts (very average from efficiency standpoint) if they insist on scoring from behind the arc.

More likely you will see teams look at scoring in other ways and using players with different skill sets. I'd love to see a few more old school post players and some mid-range scorers back in the game. Right now IMO it is way to much about players putting their head down and trying to get fouled at the rim or guys standing around the arc waiting for a kick-out. No different than back in the 90's & early 2000's when teams were running iso after iso if they had a player that could exploit a match-up and get free run with the old illegal defense rule. That rule needed to be changed and it was.

For the record I started watching the ABA and want the 3-point shot in the game. The problem is the shot is "worth too much" in today's game. Shooting 36% from 3 (which the league has done & on increasing attempts over the last decade) is the same as the entire league shooting 54% from two point range. A rule change that reduces three point attempts and gets the % down under 33% would be a boost to sport IMO.
 
Only my Lakers could be stupid enough to win their way out of a top 3 pick.


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Analytics have completely taken over the NBA. Goal of any offense is to either get a layup/dunk, 3(preferably a corner 3)or a ft. Midrange jump shots are basically not a shot that should be taken when looking at it in an analytics viewpoint. If you watch the NBA you see this is in how offenses attack and how defenses defend.
The NBA product has changed because you now have 3 men playing the 4 instead of 2 true post players because it spreads the floor and makes it a more efficient offense (in theory). Look at how few true centers are. A center now is a guy that can roll hard in a pick & roll and then catch a lob. Think drummond, deandre jordan, and Dwight. This works because the offense has a dynamic pg and then 3 guys that can spread the floor around the pick and roll.
Personally I love where the NBA game is today. It is fun to watch and puts more of an emphasis on skill and not on height/athleticism. It is also more of a ball movement game now thanks to teams like the Spurs and warriors. It is a much better product.
If they moved the line back teams will still use that as the spacing line. Teams will still try to take those shots a lot.


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I completely agree. Spacing and ball movement is so much more entertaining than the isolation stuff.


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Solid seats tonight

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Kobe is bringing it against LJ tonight and Frye is burying everything from everywhere.
 
Clearly the Cavs went to South Beach last night, right? #ElHeat haha
 
Canes said:
Clearly the Cavs went to South Beach last night, right? #ElHeat haha
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Something like that lol it's gonna be funny when the Heat "fans" realize that they don't win an NBA title for winning tonight
 
PhillyV said:
Something like that lol it's gonna be funny when the Heat "fans" realize that they don't win an NBA title for winning tonight
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See ya in the conference finals bro. Gotta admit we're playing some good ball without Bosh. I'm a Heat lifer... 305 til I die haha
 
Spurs-Warriors is a pretty intense game right now. Warriors aren't even close to their normal offense and they are missing 2 of their key guys in Iguodala and Bogut, and they are still in this game.
 
I didnt even think Bogut played much on that team, but with them being west coast I dont get to watch many
 
mikedean441 said:
I didnt even think Bogut played much on that team, but with them being west coast I dont get to watch many
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He is a starter for them...but of the top of my head, he probably plays about as much as Mozgov does for the Cavs.

The interesting part for the Spurs tonight is that Duncan came off the bench, barely played at all (<10 minutes). I wonder if they'd do that for an entire series vs. the Warriors and just play Aldridge as their center with Diaw also in the lineup.
 
arydolphin said:
He is a starter for them...but of the top of my head, he probably plays about as much as Mozgov does for the Cavs.

The interesting part for the Spurs tonight is that Duncan came off the bench, barely played at all (<10 minutes). I wonder if they'd do that for an entire series vs. the Warriors and just play Aldridge as their center with Diaw also in the lineup.
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I'd expect heavy bench minutes for David West, Manu/Green depending on who starts and Patty Mills.

Boban and Timmy D low minutes makes sense as well, but probably more than 15 for Tim.
 
I'd say the most recent Laker isn't making too many friends after this video he shot got posted, Sorry Russel:
 
IceyShanks said:
I'd say the most recent Laker isn't making too many friends after this video he shot got posted, Sorry Russel:
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They are saying it was a practical joke gone wrong. That is a serious screw up. I don't know how he recovers from that. The Lakers may be forced to move him or most of the other guys on the team.


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Its funny who is the bad guy in this situation, which kind of sums up the NBA to the common man.
 
JB said:
Its funny who is the bad guy in this situation, which kind of sums up the NBA to the common man.
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Yeah when I first heard on the radio there was drama and a video I figured he should be the focus, then I watched the video, Nick Young is a joke, no thank you!
 
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