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Flat out wrong.
Mulligan9111
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Time. People have had time to look at the situation and make a decision about the best course of action. I don't quite understand why people are so against letting the legal process conclude before punishing someone.
I do agree that everybody has the right to a fair trial. But to think that I have to watch Greg Hardy play football while he appeals his conviction is gross. If Peterson plays, then so be it. He whipped a child that he fathered. Karma will get him. Like I said earlier, the ovation he will get in Minnesota will make me sick. I don't wish injury on any player, but that guy has some awful karma heading his way.
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Honest question. Did it bother you that the Packers did not release Chmura for 2 months after the charges?
Im with you completely. I wish every team did this. Get in trouble, sit until we figure this out.
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I suppose the Vikings figured that by activating a surefire Hall of Famer, and their biggest financial investment, it was the safer financial decision than keeping him inactivated.
People just need to learn to stomach that this is all about the almighty dollar.
I honestly don't know what I think about the NFL any longer. I am a Jets fan, which tells you that I don't expect much ... seeing as they have not won a Super Bowl since I've been alive. Some teams have their stuff together and operate in a way that makes good common sense, and seems to reflect a level of cognizance that the team represents the city that supports them and they take that civic duty seriously. Other teams are dumpster fires, run by owners and management that don't deserve to run a lemonade stand let alone an NFL team.
People just need to learn to stomach that this is all about the almighty dollar.
I honestly don't know what I think about the NFL any longer. I am a Jets fan, which tells you that I don't expect much ... seeing as they have not won a Super Bowl since I've been alive. Some teams have their stuff together and operate in a way that makes good common sense, and seems to reflect a level of cognizance that the team represents the city that supports them and they take that civic duty seriously. Other teams are dumpster fires, run by owners and management that don't deserve to run a lemonade stand let alone an NFL team.
Greg Hardy sat last week.
But that situation is confusing, since he's already been convicted. I'd put money on that if the Ray Rice deal hadn't happened Hardy probably wouldn't have seen much in the way of suspension.
I know. And that is disgusting to me.
I think it's easy to be upset bc it's human nature. At the end of the day we have to realize that the NFL is huge for these owners portfolios and they want to maximize the return on their investment. So they let the commissioner dole out punishment per case and live with it even if they know the action/crime deserved way more.
That's why the ravens were ok with two games, that's why Carolina was waiting on the final punishment for Hardy (maybe even waiting for the commissioner to act) & that's why AP will play this week.
That's why the ravens were ok with two games, that's why Carolina was waiting on the final punishment for Hardy (maybe even waiting for the commissioner to act) & that's why AP will play this week.
Mulligan9111
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I understand how you feel, I truly do. At the same time I know that I wouldn't want people to judge me based on 5 minutes of my life when I made a poor decision. It's one thing to be a habitual abuser and quite another to make a poor decision in a split second.
Saw that. Broken hand. Looks like Charles has a high ankle sprain & who knows how that turns out
Except the extent and type of damage Adrian did to his son doesn't seem like a "in the heat of the moment" type of action. That's a snap judgement on my part I understand. But to whip a four year old from his back to his feet shows a person with personality trait that I would not associate with
Mulligan9111
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I'm not excusing what he did at all, but can you honestly say you've never done something where afterwards you went "Crap why did I do that?"
I don't know exactly what happened between Adrian and his son that got him to the point where he did what he did. So I'm not going to make a judgement of whether it was heat of the moment or not. I just know that there have been times in my life where I did something and realized that afterwards I probably went a little too far.
DevRickus
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I can say I never physically abused ANYONE especially not my 2 year old daughter. Thats not a mistake. Thats a crime. There is a line between discipline and abuse and he leaped right across it.
The one thing I haven't seen/heard from anywhere and most likely missed it, but didn't Adrian Peterson suffer the loss of his toddler last year from being assaulted by his exes boyfriend (I don't remember the specifics)?? You'd think he would be against violence towards kids in any way/shape/form. It just doesn't make sense...??
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So do you think he deserves his day in court?
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I'm going to preference this by saying that I do not excuse AP for what he did. Remember that at the end of my post.
The question that arises is how was AP brought up? My wife talks about having to pick out her own switch, and so I guess in the south this is pretty common. Was he applying the "lessons" he learned from his parents while he was growing up? It's quite possible that he saw that parenting and said "Hey, it worked for me, it'll work for my kids too." When you factor in that parents are given little to nil parenting lessons (especially when it appears that AP was fairly removed from the whole situation to begin with), and it's possible that he saw this as acceptable.
Where this fails, IMO, is that he's an NFL player and I'm sure the NFL has had plenty of in-services talking about how they need to interact with people outside the NFL. He's a guy who crushes grown men for a living. He needs to understand his power and the effects it can have ... including on a four year old.
I have a feeling it'll go to trial (only if the DA wants to make a name for themselves) but regardless, AP won't see any jail time. He'll undergo some serious counseling and parental education (may even have his parental rights terminated) but I don't think he'll see the inside of a jail.
The question that arises is how was AP brought up? My wife talks about having to pick out her own switch, and so I guess in the south this is pretty common. Was he applying the "lessons" he learned from his parents while he was growing up? It's quite possible that he saw that parenting and said "Hey, it worked for me, it'll work for my kids too." When you factor in that parents are given little to nil parenting lessons (especially when it appears that AP was fairly removed from the whole situation to begin with), and it's possible that he saw this as acceptable.
Where this fails, IMO, is that he's an NFL player and I'm sure the NFL has had plenty of in-services talking about how they need to interact with people outside the NFL. He's a guy who crushes grown men for a living. He needs to understand his power and the effects it can have ... including on a four year old.
I have a feeling it'll go to trial (only if the DA wants to make a name for themselves) but regardless, AP won't see any jail time. He'll undergo some serious counseling and parental education (may even have his parental rights terminated) but I don't think he'll see the inside of a jail.
DevRickus
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Absolutely he deserves his day in court. Until that time comes he should be suspended with pay. Same goes for any player that gets into legal trouble in the NFL. Suspended with pay. Found guilty, suspended without pay and that teams does not get to activate a player. They lose a roster spot until the suspension is over or the end of the season.
moosejaa
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Was reading up on more details on this. AP was very forthcoming. I think it was the 2nd time he doled it out on this poor kid during the visit. Don't think this was an "oh crap" moment.
http://houston.cbslocal.com/2014/09/12/exclusive-details-on-adrian-peterson-indictment-charges/
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