sposey013168
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To me its this.
Low is 6 and below
mid is 7 to 13
high is 14 and above
Low is 6 and below
mid is 7 to 13
high is 14 and above
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Yeah I feel bad that if I ran into 100 usga golfers 47 would still be better than me. I thought it would be 25-35 at most
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I find it pretty amazing and honestly almost unbelievable that about 50% of people with caps are a 13 or better. I get that this is only accounting for people with caps but still that imo is something quite surprising. Getting to 13 is simply very hard to do even for most avid players. I find it hard to believe that 50% of cap players are at that mark and better. I wonder how many vanity caps are really out there and in that stat? Id say far more people run a vanity cap vs a sandbagging one just simply for bragging rights and remember not at all do all cap keepers play completive golf.
I don't at all. Most people that aren't great at golf aren't actively looking to find out what their handicap really is. While people that are good at golf are more likely to get and maintain a handicap.
At our men's club the field is usually 60%+ blue flight (10.2 index and lower) and 40% or less in the white flight (10.3+). Not sure what the percentage of the club is overall, I would guess it is pretty similar to those numbers, or close to those national numbers.
Also, many people are just naturally better than others. I have put in a lot of time, money and sweat to get myself down to 12.8 (trending to 12.7) but my brother who has a much better swing and is a bit more athletic than I am is a 12.5 even though he only gets to play for a month or 2 in the spring and then another couple months in the fall before winter settles.
He rarely practices (if ever) while I am practicing 1-2 times a week currently and playing once a week throughout the year.
Life isn't fair and golf is even less so.
My thoughts are
0 - 8 = low
9 - 16 = mid
17+ = high
I find it pretty amazing and honestly almost unbelievable that about 50% of people with caps are a 13 or better. I get that this is only accounting for people with caps but still that imo is something quite surprising. Getting to 13 is simply very hard to do even for most avid players. I find it hard to believe that 50% of cap players are at that mark and better. I wonder how many vanity caps are really out there and in that stat? Id say far more people run a vanity cap vs a sandbagging one just simply for bragging rights and remember not at all do all cap keepers play completive golf.
I don't at all. Most people that aren't great at golf aren't actively looking to find out what their handicap really is. While people that are good at golf are more likely to get and maintain a handicap.
At our men's club the field is usually 60%+ blue flight (10.2 index and lower) and 40% or less in the white flight (10.3+). Not sure what the percentage of the club is overall, I would guess it is pretty similar to those numbers, or close to those national numbers.
Also, many people are just naturally better than others. I have put in a lot of time, money and sweat to get myself down to 12.8 (trending to 12.7) but my brother who has a much better swing and is a bit more athletic than I am is a 12.5 even though he only gets to play for a month or 2 in the spring and then another couple months in the fall before winter settles.
He rarely practices (if ever) while I am practicing 1-2 times a week currently and playing once a week throughout the year.
Life isn't fair and golf is even less so.
well...golf itself is fair as its the same for everyone. Its the luck or being fortunate to be better at it which some posses a great deal more of than others that is what seems unfair. Such as the case with your brother. Nothing anyone can do about it and is what it is but none the less can seem unfair lol especially for one who really likes or loves the game and desires and works hard to be better at it.
And fwiw and a bit off topic I don't feel being athletic is any great separator in golf. Very many athletic people cant play at all good and very many people who wouldn't be athletic at much else at all are very good at golf. Surly we have to have some amount of coordination like just about anything. But hey I was a hockey player, still am a skier and a pretty good one even at my age, can do allsorts of athletic things fairly well. But golf? even with that is still a struggle.
Here's what I've thought:
Low - anything single digits
Middle - 10.0 to about 17
High - 18 or higher
Having said that I think that's wrong. If the average index is 17 then Middle has to go higher.
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Low for me is 7 or under. 8-12 is mid and 13/up is high.
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Here's what I've thought:
Low - anything single digits
Middle - 10.0 to about 17
High - 18 or higher
Having said that I think that's wrong. If the average index is 17 then Middle has to go higher.
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I wonder how many of those caps are maintained at only one course hitting from the whites? I could get my cap a decent amount lower if I always hit from the whites instead of the tips since the rating doesn't go up as much as the difficulty does on my home course.
I doubt I could even tell the difference between a 24 and a 16.
I think the usga chart is not accurate representation of golfers handicap. For one, from my experience if ones play poorly why do they want to keep official hc they can get that from many golf apps, so you'd find more of better player signing up.
For another, I know too many sandbaggers that I'm surprised there are not more "officials high handicappers"
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that is sort of what the point in my post was about. By avid and also better players the journey from 24 to 16 is not viewed as nor is it quite the same as a journey from 16 to 8. And so what is indeed a middle number doesn't then seem as though its a middle ability.
But that said. Unless you were never a 24 or got past that place very fast there is a big difference between a 24 and 16. You may not see it nor notice it but the player who worked hard to get there sure did and does.. In fact Id say he (probably most) feels very different about his play at 16 vs his past play at 24. There is a ton more (relatively speaking) consistency and ball striking ability between them.
I shot high 80's low 90's from age 18-22. Then I played golf about once a year, came back in 2013, like 22 once I got a handicap, took 2014 off and then in 2015 I had an unlimited golf membership for cheap and was down around a 4 by the end o that season. Probably played 150 rounds that season for score and would spend another hour a day using the course as a driving range basically.
that is sort of what the point in my post was about. By avid and also better players the journey from 24 to 16 is not viewed as nor is it quite the same as a journey from 16 to 8. And so what is indeed a middle number doesn't then seem as though its a middle ability.
But that said. Unless you were never a 24 or got past that place very fast there is a big difference between a 24 and 16. You may not see it nor notice it but the player who worked hard to get there sure did and does.. In fact Id say he (probably most) feels very different about his play at 16 vs his past play at 24. There is a ton more (relatively speaking) consistency and ball striking ability between them.