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Have you guys got to the sexting yet. haha.
Not necessarily. It would be very difficult to either:
A. Stick the same hole
B. Breaks said seal, then reseal the container in a way that shows no tampering
I'm not saying this couldn't be done, but IMO it is not as likely as the defense would lead you to believe, and the presence of the hole in the top means nothing (contrary to the point of the defense lawyer... definitely not a "red banner day")
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I'm calling some BS on the film makers in this interview. They paint themselves as mere observers, totally impartial. But they are human and they know their project has a much greater chance of success if there is drama and intrigue.http://time.com/4167915/making-a-murderer-steven-avery-juror/
It's safe to say, I'm not taking my family to Wisconsin any time soon!
I haven't seen the documentary yet. My read on the reaction of people in this thread is they acknowledge he's a bad person, that he maybe/probably killed her AND that the system was corrupt.Man. There is a lot of sympathy for a man who threw his oil drenched cat in a fire, was an illegal firearm owner, with a history of threatening behavior towards women.
I keep seeing the word "documentary" used. I don't think this is a documentary. It is far from unbiased and intentionally left out facts, presented at trial, to further the narrative it was aiming for.I haven't seen the documentary yet. My read on the reaction of people in this thread is they acknowledge he's a bad person, that he maybe/probably killed her AND that the system was corrupt.
Welcome to the genre, post Michael Moore.I keep seeing the word "documentary" used. I don't think this is a documentary. It is far from unbiased and intentionally left out facts, presented at trial, to further the narrative it was aiming for.
Man. There is a lot of sympathy for a man who threw his oil drenched cat in a fire, was an illegal firearm owner, with a history of threatening behavior towards women.
Do you believe this is the first time a man (or woman) has been convicted of murder (or any other crime) has made claims of judicial failings? 99% of convicts alert wrongly convicted, if you ask them.I don't disagree with you and believe Avery to be guilty in some form or fashion. However, planting evidence, lying under oath and tampering with jurors to ensure a conviction goes against everything we are taught to believe about our judicial system!
There is no evidence of jury tampering whatsoever, except some whining jurors 8 years later.... If you watch closely, that juror that got excused for the 'medical emergency' can be seen outside the courthouse in one shot as Dassey is walking by.... Like he supported him or something? That's not impartial either...I don't disagree with you and believe Avery to be guilty in some form or fashion. However, planting evidence, lying under oath and tampering with jurors to ensure a conviction goes against everything we are taught to believe about our judicial system!
I keep seeing the word "documentary" used. I don't think this is a documentary. It is far from unbiased and intentionally left out facts, presented at trial, to further the narrative it was aiming for.
Probably a few of them who are then shown video evidence of their crime caught on tape.Do you believe this is the first time a man (or woman) has been convicted of murder (or any other crime) has made claims of judicial failings? 99% of convicts alert wrongly convicted, if you ask them.
Yeah one of the jurors basically said that they traded votes. Hence the one not guilty verdict. You vote for this, I'll vote for that.
Do you believe this is the first time a man (or woman) has been convicted of murder (or any other crime) has made claims of judicial failings? 99% of convicts alert wrongly convicted, if you ask them.
There is far more to this than Avery's claims. It's not my opinion the DA's office was corrupt. He was fired for misconduct among other reasons.
I haven't gotten to that point yet, but if I'm not mistaken it was for sexting and sexual harassment, not for framing people or anything of the like. Not defending his actions at all, but it hardly brings into question a trial that occurred years earlier.
So Kratz's transgressions unrelated to this case are to be scrutinized but not Avery's?Ken Kratz was being investigated during the Avery trial so it wasn't "years earlier". It isn't a giant leap for a person to be corrupt in one area lead to further corruption in another.
I am intrigued by the Anonymous angle. If they have indeed found inflammatory emails between DA and sheriff's office personnel, the media blitz has only just begun.