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Cleveland CG Black CB Iron Preview

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Hawk said:
Just a teaser before I head to soccer practice. They look better than expected and I expected them to look good. Big wow.

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Are those 2 different materials on the sole?
 
Hawk said:
Just a teaser before I head to soccer practice. They look better than expected and I expected them to look good. Big wow.

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Never mind, worth every penny. They look so much better in hand than I could have imagined.
 
The Dave said:
Are those 2 different materials on the sole?
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Sorry, not sure. I'll try to find out more soon.
cbaker2882 said:
Never mind, worth every penny. They look so much better in hand than I could have imagined.
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Man, I'm telling you. Highly impressive in person. I don't get surprised often, but I was borderline shocked.
 
brendos said:
I get what you're saying. But my point wasn't that these would be the best selling line. Only that there is still a market for players wanting a more compact shape with traditional lofts. I mean, you look at most "player" style irons and they are still in more traditional lofts. This might be because CG placements of distance irons may necessitate stronger lofts to some extent as you say. But I am fairly skeptical of this. I think distance irons are primarily for those players who want to play one less club for whatever reason, and that's fine. I know someone who suffers from a chronic injury and can't hit the ball as far as he used to. These jacked up lofts and lower CG placements are brilliant for him. So obviously there is a place in the market for these sorts of irons. I think forgiveness often comes into the equation with jacking up lofts and chunking up irons as well, which i've never really understood. If you're going to deliver the club poorly, you'll hit a bad shot no matter what kind of iron you hit and where the CG is placed. If you hit the ball well, you are going to get good results. You might have to take one more club with a traditional iron, but this is simply renaming the clubs more than any real difference.

I am completely agree with the Ben Hogan philosophy here that they are marketing with their new irons. They are challenging the accepted wisdom and I think they make a lot of sense. These distance irons sometimes have as little as 2.5 degrees gaps between you 4 and 5 irons. Whereas, the gaps are huge in your scoring irons. This is where you really want more precise gapping because it gives you more options to hit full shots into greens. Hogan are spot on in my opinion. Just because major manufacturers are all going this way doesn't make it right. I love that Hogan have called them out on this. They also say that the forgiveness of chunky irons is also overrated. And I agree from my experience. One of their reps made a quite apt analogy between hitting chunky, overly perimeter weighted clubs with using a hammer to nail in nails sideways. You want the mass right behind the hitting area not everywhere else. I think we've bought into the story large manufacturers have sold us way too much.
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Im not going to argue with you. You have your preferences. What I spoke of is fact, not opinion.

FWIW, Hogan did not call anybody out. Terry Koehler called someone out while leasing the name from Perry Ellis. No different than he did with his previous line of SCOR wedges or his previous line of Eidolon wedges. Neither of which worked the way he wanted them to.

If someone wants to play muscle backs and feels as though that is what is going to make them better or believes that is better for the golfer, so be it. Science is not behind them, but people should play what they want.
 
These are flipping gorgeous. Holy crap.
 
man those things photograph well. Look really sharp. I am very curious on these.
 
Hawk said:
Sorry, not sure. I'll try to find out more soon.

Man, I'm telling you. Highly impressive in person. I don't get surprised often, but I was borderline shocked.
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It just looks that way from the picture...maybe it is just the angle and the camera
 
These look beautiful. I hope the finish holds up.
 
The Dave said:
It just looks that way from the picture...maybe it is just the angle and the camera
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If I'm guessing, it's just a difference in finish. You are right though - it does look different.
 
I thought these looked good when the post came up in the beginning... now I think they look even better. WOW
 
Hawk said:
Just a teaser before I head to soccer practice. They look better than expected and I expected them to look good. Big wow.

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Wow, Hawk, calm down! This is suppose to be a family site. You can't just throw pornographic photos like that around.
 
These are a gorgeous set of irons. They really drew me in when I saw them on the shelf - they look even better in a golf bag, judging from Hawk's picture - especially with the RTX 2.0 wedges in Black. Can't wait to hear more about these.

I think the rumors of Cleveland's demise are greatly exaggerated.
 
Scary part of these irons is that MikeDean and I were out in California in August of last year and shot some video content with Cleveland for THP TV. That was our first glance at these irons and we had to keep a lid on it for 6 months. We both absolutely loved them at first sight.
 
Dang it. That pic is seriously making me regret turning down my fitter to swap my 588TT heads for these. May have to reconsider. It's only money right?
 
JB said:
Scary part of these irons is that MikeDean and I were out in California in August of last year and shot some video content with Cleveland for THP TV. That was our first glance at these irons and we had to keep a lid on it for 6 months. We both absolutely loved them at first sight.
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Sure did for a "CB" I was very happy.
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These irons look sweet. Wonder how they feel.


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no more pics please, these are just too pretty
 
So the Cleveland website says these have a draw bias. I wonder how much. Probably eliminates them for me. I have enough trouble not going left like Nancy Pelosi at a fundraiser as it is.
 
Penglynns said:
So the Cleveland website says these have a draw bias. I wonder how much. Probably eliminates them for me. I have enough trouble not going left like Nancy Pelosi at a fundraiser as it is.
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Im sure I am just missing it, but can I ask where it says that?
 
I think the draw bias is more for the regular CG Blacks not the CB version.
 
Mward said:
I think the draw bias is more for the regular CG Blacks not the CB version.
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I believe Wardy is right. Draw bias is listed in the technology description of the regular CG Blacks, there is no mention if it for the CB's.
 
Man these might surpass 545/745s for me in the top spot of the looks department. So freaking gorgeous.
 
Parshooter36 said:
I believe Wardy is right. Draw bias is listed in the technology description of the regular CG Blacks, there is no mention if it for the CB's.
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Indeed. Had the wrong one up earlier. I blame the three year old. :)

Carry on. Nothing to see here.
 
New cg black stand bag 6.5 pounds 14 way top for those bad boys
 

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