TheDoctor
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Well GEO threw a spanner in the works last night be letting me know that he went and hit them and didn't want to put them down....looks like I might have to go and give these a try as well now...
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Really really enjoyed hitting them. I wasn't in the market for new irons but I could be now!!
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"I have problems with my 3-6 irons but man, these RSi2's are pure deadly"
My thoughts exactly. I've never gamed a 3 iron before but these are so easy to hit, not to keep in the bag. 105 Tours are nice but it does get a little high at times. Please let us know how it feels with the C-Tapers.
Good write-up, Colin! Those long irons are doing well for ya huh? Considering more on the 4 iron?
Just what I was waiting for time to pull the trigger! Thanks Chris!I got my set out to the simulator for the first time and I have some notes to add to the thread:
The previous distances and iron interactions I will reference are coming from my previous sets of Ping G5's and Mizuno JPX 825 Pro's. I have used both of those sets on this exact simulator, so I am fairly confident that the numbers are accurate that are being compared.
Ok so here are my observations...
Tech - A+: A lot of clubs have come out through the years with some sort of new technology claiming to be longer/straighter/faster...but honestly the tech in these new RSi2's just flat out performs like it advertises. I have never seen such consistent distances with my 5/6, and even better dispersion between my 7/8. I absolutely feel that the face slots and speed slots do exactly what they are supposed to. No way I was hitting every shot today out of the center of the face, but I never saw more than 5 yards difference in distances whenever I hit them.
Long/Mid Irons - A+: The long/mid irons of the RSi2 (5-7) are absolutely fantastic. I can't say enough good things about them. My distances were 10-15 yards on average longer than what I am used to, and even with that, had absolutely no loss of feel at all. For example, the 5 iron distances I was seeing were averaging around 200-205, while I normally would expect 185-190 out of that club in the past. Even with the added distances, I was still seeing a consistent 15 yard gapping between the 5-6-7. They also launch pretty well for being longer irons, especially the 5 and 6. I hit high in general, but these irons really do allow you to hit full distances into the green and land softly. I can't rate these anything other than an A+. Best 5/6/7 irons I have ever hit.
Short Irons - A: The short irons simply do what they are supposed to do. I wasn't seeing much distance gains in these as Wonton and others have already touched on, but that is 100% ok with me, and honestly it's probably better. I hit my 8 iron around 150-155 and I might have been getting about 5 extra yards for 155-160. 9 was pretty similar to what I was used to already, about 140-145 for me. I didn't really see much if any gains with the 9 and PW, which is interesting considering they are the only clubs without either of the face or speed slots.
Gapping - A: One thing I have to wonder about with these irons sets that add a bunch of distance for you, is how it effects the gapping in the set. My typical gaps I am used to are 15 yards between my 5-6-7, and then 10 yards between my 7-PW. Here is a typical chart of the gaps I was used to, and what I was seeing now:
Old Sets
5: 190
6: 175
7: 160
8: 150
9: 140
PW: 130
RSi2
5: 205
6: 190
7: 175
8: 160
9: 145
PW: 130
As you can see, the extra distance gains do effect gapping, but it's not necessarily negative, as it stays very consistent 15 yards down instead of becoming 10 yards once I got to 7/8 before. Yes, they made me think a little bit more between distances, but these were not hard to navigate with these clubs at all.
Feel/Sound - A: Feel was solid with these. Sound was not as soft and muted as the Mizuno's I had, but not quite as clicky or loud as the Pings. Pretty moderate sound and it wasn't a negative or positive per say. Between the sound and vibration, I could tell pretty easily how the shot was coming off, and pure shots felt very nice.
Overall - A+: I can't say enough about these. Not only did they provide excellent distance which helped me out tremendously towards the top, they were extremely consistent and they provided immediate confidence every time I selected a club. Nothing is better in an iron set than knowing you can knock about 5-8 yards off a club confidently when you're sitting in a gap between clubs.
After hitting these on Weds, more out of curiosity than anything else, then not wanting to put them down I went back today and had a fit for them. My good friend runs a local AG store and there is an outdoor range so we generally fit the old school way by eye and feel.
We had them up against my current MP-64, Callaway XR Pro, Nike Vapor Pro Combo, RSi TP and Titleist AP2.
Once again the RSi 2 came out on top in all departments for me strong high flight, consistent distance and really tight dispersion. They are so easy to hit and even coming from a Mizuno the feel was great. Tried a number of shafts but the one that worked the best was the C-Taper 90 S.
I have to say I would game any of the above irons as they were all really solid offerings and slightly different in their own way. As consumers we are lucky with the choice of so much great equipment out there. The RSi2's just worked that bit better for me and the added help from the head I think will help me especially in some of the miserable cold conditions we play through here in the UK.
Anyway and order has been placed just could not pass them up! My MP's will be kept but I suspect the RSi2's will get the most game time. Can wait to get them in play!
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I got my set out to the simulator for the first time and I have some notes to add to the thread:
The previous distances and iron interactions I will reference are coming from my previous sets of Ping G5's and Mizuno JPX 825 Pro's. I have used both of those sets on this exact simulator, so I am fairly confident that the numbers are accurate that are being compared.
Ok so here are my observations...
Tech - A+: A lot of clubs have come out through the years with some sort of new technology claiming to be longer/straighter/faster...but honestly the tech in these new RSi2's just flat out performs like it advertises. I have never seen such consistent distances with my 5/6, and even better dispersion between my 7/8. I absolutely feel that the face slots and speed slots do exactly what they are supposed to. No way I was hitting every shot today out of the center of the face, but I never saw more than 5 yards difference in distances whenever I hit them.
Long/Mid Irons - A+: The long/mid irons of the RSi2 (5-7) are absolutely fantastic. I can't say enough good things about them. My distances were 10-15 yards on average longer than what I am used to, and even with that, had absolutely no loss of feel at all. For example, the 5 iron distances I was seeing were averaging around 200-205, while I normally would expect 185-190 out of that club in the past. Even with the added distances, I was still seeing a consistent 15 yard gapping between the 5-6-7. They also launch pretty well for being longer irons, especially the 5 and 6. I hit high in general, but these irons really do allow you to hit full distances into the green and land softly. I can't rate these anything other than an A+. Best 5/6/7 irons I have ever hit.
Short Irons - A: The short irons simply do what they are supposed to do. I wasn't seeing much distance gains in these as Wonton and others have already touched on, but that is 100% ok with me, and honestly it's probably better. I hit my 8 iron around 150-155 and I might have been getting about 5 extra yards for 155-160. 9 was pretty similar to what I was used to already, about 140-145 for me. I didn't really see much if any gains with the 9 and PW, which is interesting considering they are the only clubs without either of the face or speed slots.
Gapping - A: One thing I have to wonder about with these irons sets that add a bunch of distance for you, is how it effects the gapping in the set. My typical gaps I am used to are 15 yards between my 5-6-7, and then 10 yards between my 7-PW. Here is a typical chart of the gaps I was used to, and what I was seeing now:
Old Sets
5: 190
6: 175
7: 160
8: 150
9: 140
PW: 130
RSi2
5: 205
6: 190
7: 175
8: 160
9: 145
PW: 130
As you can see, the extra distance gains do effect gapping, but it's not necessarily negative, as it stays very consistent 15 yards down instead of becoming 10 yards once I got to 7/8 before. Yes, they made me think a little bit more between distances, but these were not hard to navigate with these clubs at all.
Feel/Sound - A: Feel was solid with these. Sound was not as soft and muted as the Mizuno's I had, but not quite as clicky or loud as the Pings. Pretty moderate sound and it wasn't a negative or positive per say. Between the sound and vibration, I could tell pretty easily how the shot was coming off, and pure shots felt very nice.
Overall - A+: I can't say enough about these. Not only did they provide excellent distance which helped me out tremendously towards the top, they were extremely consistent and they provided immediate confidence every time I selected a club. Nothing is better in an iron set than knowing you can knock about 5-8 yards off a club confidently when you're sitting in a gap between clubs.
"It's kinda annoying when people post one line reviews or write ups. I'll learn more from your quote than 50 short reviews."
wow... did we just get blasted?
Cbaker,
great review. Thank you for being thorough. I love the fact you listed your old and new yardages. Breaking down each topic helps too. It's kinda annoying when people post one line reviews or write ups. I'll learn more from your quote than 50 short reviews. Keep them coming and please update on your experience with the rsi 2s.
I definitely want to try them but don't want to get that itch that causes me to ponder buying a new set of irons at this time