What do your eyes focus on during your putting stroke?

What do your eyes focus on during your putting stroke?

  • My eyes stay focused on the ball through impact

    Votes: 51 64.6%
  • My eyes follow the putter head through impact

    Votes: 8 10.1%
  • My eyes stay focused on something else

    Votes: 13 16.5%
  • My focus changes during the swing

    Votes: 7 8.9%

  • Total voters
    79
To be fair I never said anything about Spi being about becoming a putting robot
 
So I could use SPi techniques and some of Stockton's ideas to make it more natural & overthinking it? Right now, just learning to keep looking at the ball during the swing, it does feel somewhat stiff & unnatural. I imagine that will change with repetitions. I'll have to read Stockton's book.
Precisely.
 
I don't get it and I just do not know where to look. Top of the ball? Back where the putter hits the ball or the front of the ball. My eyes are always moving around. I need to figure out where to look. Help please. Thanks.

I don't think it matters so much exactly where you focus. Pick one spot & try it. The main thing is that your eyes are not jumping around to different spots as you make your swing.

Right now, I'm practicing in the basement on a Birdieball green, so I'm focusing on the reflections of the lights on the ball (three of them - make sort of a triangle), and then what I'm really looking for is the after-image of the ball once the actual ball is gone. Since I'm using yellow Srixons, the after image should be blue, but against the green it looks dark green. If using a white ball, the after-image is probably on the orange side (If putting on a white carpet, the after-image would be red.).
 
I going in for a few lessons on Tuesday...I'll ask my instructor about their thoughts.
 
To be fair I never said anything about Spi being about becoming a putting robot

Given the conversation has been about the two methods in here in the last several posts, surely you can see how it can be construed that way.

Either way, as I said, with ANY technique or school of thought, some battle just how second nature they are willing to let it be. Its human nature to overthink and get in the way sadly.
 
To be fair, SPi is not about becoming a putting robot. Its fundamentals which allow for a free and repeatable stroke, taking the thinking out of it and making it second nature.

As with ANY technique or school of thought, some battle just how second nature they are willing to let it be. Its human nature to overthink and get in the way

And it was second nature - until this "eyes on the ball" issue cropped up. Hopefully I'll get back to free & easy with lots of practice.
 
SPi robots haha. That's funny.

The best thing about SPi is how much it can be incorporated into a stroke that's comfortable for anyone. Take advantage of removing all the stupid things people do to ruin the perfect stroke and make the rest your own.
 
I try to focus just in front of the ball. Helps me get through it.
 
To be fair, SPi is not about becoming a putting robot. Its fundamentals which allow for a free and repeatable stroke, taking the thinking out of it and making it second nature.

As with ANY technique or school of thought, some battle just how second nature they are willing to let it be. Its human nature to overthink and get in the way

SPi robots haha. That's funny.

The best thing about SPi is how much it can be incorporated into a stroke that's comfortable for anyone. Take advantage of removing all the stupid things people do to ruin the perfect stroke and make the rest your own.


As the resident THP "experts" on SPi, how long do you figure it took you to get to that "second nature" feeling? How many hours of practice? Was it daily? I know this might be hard to answer, but I'm just trying to guage my own progress & training efforts.
 
As the resident THP "experts" on SPi, how long do you figure it took you to get to that "second nature" feeling? How many hours of practice? Was it daily? I know this might be hard to answer, but I'm just trying to guage my own progress & training efforts.

Well, James can speak more about full SPi than I ever could, because quite honestly my stroke doesn't incorporate all of it. What it helped me to do was build a platform around a solid putting stroke while still being comfortable in my own unique stroke. Things like the proper pendulum, RST alignment confirmation.. Ball placement. It's obviously going to take a while because I personally was doing a LOT of things wrong beforehand.
 
Well, James can speak more about full SPi than I ever could, because quite honestly my stroke doesn't incorporate all of it. What it helped me to do was build a platform around a solid putting stroke while still being comfortable in my own unique stroke. Things like the proper pendulum, RST alignment confirmation.. Ball placement. It's obviously going to take a while because I personally was doing a LOT of things wrong beforehand.

I hope I can get it really grooved by Old Silo in April. I'm probably doing an hour a day - but in 10-15 minute slots between everything else.
 
Made 46 out of 50 from 6 feet. It's feeling better & better! The idea of watching for the after-image just works very well for me!
 
To be fair, SPi is not about becoming a putting robot. Its fundamentals which allow for a free and repeatable stroke, taking the thinking out of it and making it second nature.

As with ANY technique or school of thought, some battle just how second nature they are willing to let it be. Its human nature to overthink and get in the way

Thats getting harder and harder for people to do though. The wealth of information on putting and the tendency of people to focus on the negative means when there is no immediate success people switch methods.

Like every other part of the game practice is very much a determining factor in success. Being able to stand over the putt with a quiet mind focused on the target and confidence that you can sink every putt is critical in good putting and for that matter good golf. If you want success in your putting game you need to learn a method and practice it until it becomes automatic.
 
I look at the ball. Unless I look at the putter, in which case I look at the putter.
 
I put a blue mark on top of the Logo on my ball. When I'm putting well, I keep my eyes locked on that blue dot until the ball leaves the putter face. Same thing with my driver and irons off the par3 holes . The blue dot is my focal point.
 
Thats getting harder and harder for people to do though. The wealth of information on putting and the tendency of people to focus on the negative means when there is no immediate success people switch methods.

Like every other part of the game practice is very much a determining factor in success. Being able to stand over the putt with a quiet mind focused on the target and confidence that you can sink every putt is critical in good putting and for that matter good golf. If you want success in your putting game you need to learn a method and practice it until it becomes automatic.


This is why I have that funny line & the slogan at the bottom of my signature - to remind me to trust the process & stay focused on practice. I actually started a thread a while ago on this:

http://www.thehackersparadise.com/f...to-Love-the-Plateau!-The-path-to-golf-Mastery

It's human nature for most people to look for a quick fix (new equipment, new technique, new tip) and the thrill of doing something new (the honeymoon phase), but real improvement is slow & sometimes boring & often painful and/or frustrating. At least with SPi there is data that tends to back up what they teach, but there is also a lot of room for tweaking it to fit individual tastes.



I look at the ball. Unless I look at the putter, in which case I look at the putter.

Funny, but also my experience. If I don't focus completely on my technique right now, my attention wanders & I find myself looking at the putter again. It just makes me realize how focused the best putters must be - to repeat their stroke over and over with hardly any variation.
 
My eyes stay focused on the ball, but also on keeping my lower body as still as possible throughout the putting motion.
 
I focus on a spot just a little bit in front of my ball that I hope to roll over on the intended line to the hole.
 
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I have been putting by looking at the hole. Seems to be working.

Here is an article about it from 2010 that cites some research done on the topic. http://onpar.blogs.nytimes.com/2010...ting-could-be-staring-right-at-the-hole/?_r=0

my speed seems much better when looking at the hole.

Good article - I've tried it with mixed success on the putting green; but I've never attempted it during play. I may try it tomorrow :)


I also have never tried this during a round, but it's a great way to practice your touch and feel on the greens. I like to take practice swings while looking at the hole. It seems to give me a better feel for how long a swing to make. However, I don't do this over the ball during my set up. I usually do this while other people are putting, so it's not a normal part of my pre-shot routine.
 
After practicing looking at the ball and not following the putter during the backswing, my latest results are encouraging. 88 out of 100 from 6 feet made.
 
After practicing looking at the ball and not following the putter during the backswing, my latest results are encouraging. 88 out of 100 from 6 feet made.
I got two rounds in for the year now and I can tell my putting has improved by watching the ball now instead of the putter. It's so nice to know you can make those short ones and some long one. One thing I noticed is my lag putting has really improved, so I'm keeping the 3 putts down now. Might try the looking at the home to. But if this keeps helping me I'll stick with it.
 
I got two rounds in for the year now and I can tell my putting has improved by watching the ball now instead of the putter. It's so nice to know you can make those short ones and some long one. One thing I noticed is my lag putting has really improved, so I'm keeping the 3 putts down now. Might try the looking at the home to. But if this keeps helping me I'll stick with it.

Nice to hear this coers! I'm kind of stuck now, but it's not because of looking/not looking at the ball. Keeping my eyes focused on the ball has really helped (at least indoors). The problem is I've been changing too much stuff - backstroke/throughstroke lengths, etc. & I feel too mechanical now. I really need to practice on some real greens now to see what works best.
 
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