Bradley v Jimenez

McLovin · May 2, 2015

Golf Ghost said:
I, along with others hear Pepsi speaking with a spanish accent, something he normally does not speak with. Given the context and the heated discussion, it may be viewed as a form of mockery.

I, along with others, don't hear it. and I'm pretty sensitive to it as I take offense very quickly. in my opinion, it's not there.

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Golf Ghost · May 2, 2015

caeleric said:
I, along with others, don't hear it. and I'm pretty sensitive to it as I take offense very quickly. in my opinion, it's not there.

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I'm not saying your opinion or what you are/not hearing is wrong.

McLovin · May 2, 2015

Golf Ghost said:
I'm not saying your opinion or what you are/not hearing is wrong.

it obviously set maj off to tell him to shut up, so maybe being on the ground it was worse than what I can hear on a cell phone recording. either way, pretty stupid stuff!

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Blazer · May 2, 2015

Golf Ghost said:
I didn't at first, but when he says, "You want to delay some more Miguel?"

It was clearly in a spanish accent.

It sounded that way to me as well which shows a level of ignorance on the part of the caddie.

In fact, after listening very closely I'm 95% certain the caddie said "You want to delaya some more" with a Spanish accent.

Boston_golfer · May 2, 2015

"Shut up!"

"Don't tell me to shut up!"

"Hey, don't you tell my caddie to shut up!!"

How is this news...I hear this exchange every day with my kids. Maybe the Golf Channel can send someone by for an exclusive interview with my 4 year old.

blugold · May 2, 2015

Boston_golfer said:
"Shut up!"

"Don't tell me to shut up!"

"Hey, don't you tell my caddie to shut up!!"

How is this news...I hear this exchange every day with my kids. Maybe the Golf Channel can send someone by for an exclusive interview with my 4 year old.

It's expected from kids. Not from millionaire corporate spokesmen

Boston_golfer · May 2, 2015

I hear ya, I just meant that it wasn't anything so over the top. There were no mothers mentioned, so it's a non-story :banana:

tzeboss · May 2, 2015

Fact is this is match play. Mano vs mano. Not mano vs mano vs caddy. Caddies should know their place and stick to yardage.

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IceyShanks · May 2, 2015

blugold said:
It's expected from kids. Not from millionaire corporate spokesmen

Well said buddy.

Golf 'N Gator · May 2, 2015

tzeboss said:
Fact is this is match play. Mano vs mano. Not mano vs mano vs caddy. Caddies should know their place and stick to yardage.

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Carry the bag, keep up and shut up..........

Wake · May 2, 2015

HoosierGolfer said:
Carry the bag, keep up and shut up..........

tzeboss said:
Fact is this is match play. Mano vs mano. Not mano vs mano vs caddy. Caddies should know their place and stick to yardage.

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Couldn't disagree more, their job is to help their player win, if that means speaking up at times that's OK too.

Erky · May 2, 2015

Again, MAJ had no business talking to anyone at all during this. None.

Golf Ghost · May 2, 2015

Erky said:
Again, MAJ had no business talking to anyone at all during this. None.

He doesn't have the right to ask about the ruling?

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Erky · May 2, 2015

Golf Ghost said:
He doesn't have the right to ask about the ruling?

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Yes. He is welcome to ask the rules official after the fact.

Golf Ghost · May 2, 2015

Erky said:
Yes. He is welcome to ask the rules official after the fact.

According to the rules, he has every right to be there during the ruling and asking questions.

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Erky · May 2, 2015

Golf Ghost said:
According to the rules, he has every right to be there during the ruling and asking questions.

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But instead he showed up and started acting like a jackass.

Golf Ghost · May 2, 2015

Erky said:
But instead he showed up and started acting like a jackass.

I agree that it got to the point where there was a lot of immaturity showed by multiple people involved, including MAJ.

O'Carroll · May 2, 2015

Just watching the video again, does this have a "Happy Gilmore vs. Bob Barker" vibe to anyone else?

Mulligan9111 · May 2, 2015

I'm actually curious why people are saying that Keegan's caddie had no business speaking up. Keegan is his player, if anything he has more of a right to say something than MAJ had. MAJ just kept going on and on, even after Keegan told him to leave him alone and go back to his ball. This is 100% on MAJ in my opinion, if he was concerned he should have voiced his concern to the official, and then let the official make the decision.

Caddie's aren't just there to show up and carry a bag. They are there to support their golfer and help them make decisions on the golf course, that's what they are paid to do.

Erky · May 2, 2015

I think I need someone who knows the rules better than me. I see that MAJ can make a claim of a rules violation, but not that he can be involved in the proceedings.

Golf Ghost · May 2, 2015

Erky said:
I think I need someone who knows the rules better than me. I see that MAJ can make a claim of a rules violation, but not that he can be involved in the proceedings.

Mark Russell,

"It was his opponent, he had every right in the world to come over there and see what was going on in that situations. These boys are competitors, they’re Type A personalities, and it got a little heated," he said."

http://www.sbnation.com/golf/2015/5...y-caddie-shut-up-wgc-cadillac-match-play-2015

Evok · May 2, 2015

To me it seemed Miguel thought he knew the rules better than Keegan / caddie and even the official. He has all the right to stand and listen but not run his mouth. They already had it taken care of, he's the one that needed to shutup lol

Erky · May 2, 2015

Golf Ghost said:
Mark Russell,

"It was his opponent, he had every right in the world to come over there and see what was going on in that situations. These boys are competitors, they’re Type A personalities, and it got a little heated," he said."

http://www.sbnation.com/golf/2015/5...y-caddie-shut-up-wgc-cadillac-match-play-2015

I just want to see which rule of golf states that. The only one I remember says he can raise a claim if there is a violation.

Golf Ghost · May 2, 2015

Erky said:
I just want to see which rule of golf states that. The only one I remember says he can raise a claim if there is a violation.

I'm honestly not sure that deep into it myself. Would be interesting to see if it goes further into it, I'm just shocked Russell didn't mention MAJ being in violation of anything during his interview if he was.

McLovin · May 2, 2015

Erky said:
I just want to see which rule of golf states that. The only one I remember says he can raise a claim if there is a violation.

sure seems he went significantly further than "raising a claim" even before shut-up-gate.

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