Off Course is back this week with a fantastic show and this is episode 183. Hosted by Dan Edwards, each Friday he gives you a deep look into the world of golf and equipment in a way unlike any other podcast has done before. Today, Josh Babbitt, Publisher of THP joins the show, to discuss pace of play and getting better at golf.
It wouldn’t be Off Course without some tangents, but Dan and Josh talk interviewing coaches and what goes into finding an instructor. This show has a lot going on and is one you will not want to miss as Josh Babbitt goes Off Course.

Episode 183 is here and Dan and Josh discuss the following topics.
Pace of Play in Golf
The LPGA and Golf Coverage
Interviewing an Instructor
Getting Better at Golf
And so much more
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Look forward to this making Friday go by quicker
Excited to jump into this one!
Always interested in the topic of improvement. I’ll give it listen today. Thanks!
Love that we will get a bit of LPGA chatter and tv coverage in this one
Always going to be a good show. I like to hear perspective on getting better from different people.
Different people get better different ways when they are at a different place in their game. If that’s not using different too much in a sentence.
I’m enjoying the verbal arm wrestling in the first bit to see who is interviewing who
Been a while since I haveistened but caught up on a road trip for work. Loved the talk on PGA and social side of golf.
This one should be good for listen this am! KEEP IT UP!
ALSO BRING MRS. CANADAN ON. I need to convince mrs. gMan to start playing!
Man, I just went to my local
golfTec to check it out and they mentioned the swing evaluation. Glad to hear it was beneficial
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Man, I just went to my local
golfTec to check it out and they mentioned the swing evaluation. Glad to hear it was beneficial
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It was a really cool way to audition. Will it hold longterm for me? History says no, but I liked what I went through and while not the least expensive “lesson” I have ever had, it seemed like a good investment to audition an instructor.
[QUOTE=”JB, post: 11916014, member: 3″]
It was a really cool way to audition. Will it hold longterm for me? History says no, but I liked what I went through and while not the least expensive “lesson” I have ever had, it seemed like a good investment to audition an instructor.
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And it sounded like there was value gained with understanding your swing, even if you don’t carry on there with lessons
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And it sounded like there was value gained with understanding your swing, even if you don’t carry on there with lessons
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I think there was.
It was kind of a breath of fresh air seeing someone that I didnt have to explain my issue to, but rather noticed it with in a couple of minutes. There was also really good dialogue throughout.
High and literal low of this morning commute.
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[QUOTE=”JB, post: 11916056, member: 3″]
I think there was.
It was kind of a breath of fresh air seeing someone that I didnt have to explain my issue to, but rather noticed it with in a couple of minutes. There was also really good dialogue throughout.
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sounds like a dream scenario to me.
and now i’m excited to fire up Spotify on the drive home!
I like the no commitment aspect of the “swing evaluation” vs “starting lessons”
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Lots to break down on this show so far today..
1.. I am starting to wonder if we are getting too crazy over pace. but, I agree that on any given day a 4 plus hour round is pretty solid.
2. If [USER=3]@JB[/USER] is improving I would love to see is as I was impressed when we played at Dormie.
3. The Netflix cup was awful and I am getting tired of all of stuff. I think I am hitting saturation with golf content and I am starting to feel that these are just cash grabs for millionaires and I not into it. I would rather watch youtube golf.
4. Seemed to drop unless I have missed it somewhere else that it will be a [USER=2320]@Canadan[/USER]/[USER=3]@JB[/USER] pairing day one at the Grandaddy.
[QUOTE=”Templet0n, post: 11916211, member: 53139″]
Lots to break down on this show so far today..
1.. I am starting to wonder if we are getting too crazy over pace. but, I agree that on any given day a 4 plus hour round is pretty solid.
2. If [USER=3]@JB[/USER] is improving I would love to see is as I was impressed when we played at Dormie.
3. The Netflix cup was awful and I am getting tired of all of stuff. I think I am hitting saturation with golf content and I am starting to feel that these are just cash grabs for millionaires and I not into it. I would rather watch youtube golf.
4. Seemed to drop unless I have missed it somewhere else that it will be a [USER=2320]@Canadan[/USER]/[USER=3]@JB[/USER] pairing day one at the Grandaddy.
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I thought I corrected it by saying playing together as in part of the Grandaddy.
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I thought I corrected it by saying playing together as in part of the Grandaddy.
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maybe, I might have missed that. I am still listening as I get my energy drink in and get going at work.
[USER=3]@JB[/USER] ok, I just got to the part of clarification. You guys talked about it twice. The first time you talked about how you would be playing two 7 hole matches.
I’m glad I am not the only one who believes groups playing slap-tickle are a major cause of slow play ?
UGH the 3 hour 10 holes mentioned again
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UGH the 3 hour 10 holes mentioned again
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You and Yagley playing slap tickle with story time, was not fast. :ROFLMAO:
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You and Yagley playing slap tickle with story time, was not fast. :ROFLMAO:
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Honestly had no clue till we made the turn and I was like Oh FUCK…All I can say is you’ve played it with me it’s not my fault haha
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You and Yagley playing slap tickle with story time, was not fast. :ROFLMAO:
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Maybe this is why he wins.. he ices everyone out..
I agree with birdie man/woman hits first!
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I agree with birdie man/woman hits first!
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This is the only ready golf thing I try to pause it. Hole winner should get honors. The exception being is if you are playing different tees. Then whoever is playing the furthest back should go first.
Looking forward to listening to this later today.
After the Srixon event I realized the limited time I have I wasn’t using efficiently. I got progressively worse this year throughout the summer because I just didn’t practice enough.
My answer last year for the do you want to get better was honestly no. I was shooting bogey golf and was content with that. But playing 3 times a month with no practice does not keep me at that level. I realized I do want to get better. I don’t need to be a single digit necessarily but I do want to actually be able to go out and shoot in the mid 80s. This winter I plan on focusing on practicing my short game and take a few lessons.
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Looking forward to listening to this later today.
After the Srixon event I realized the limited time I have I wasn’t using efficiently. I got progressively worse this year throughout the summer because I just didn’t practice enough.
My answer last year for the do you want to get better was honestly no. I was shooting bogey golf and was content with that. But playing 3 times a month with no practice does not keep me at that level. I realized I do want to get better. I don’t need to be a single digit necessarily but I do want to actually be able to go out and shoot in the mid 80s. This winter I plan on focusing on practicing my short game and take a few lessons.
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When you listen to this, I talked a bit about our round together at Briggs Ranch with [USER=41109]@bigbov[/USER] and Rank. About in a way, it changed my perspective a lot.
[QUOTE=”jdtox, post: 11916367, member: 5944″]
UGH the 3 hour 10 holes mentioned again
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the new Tox legacy.
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When you listen to this, I talked a bit about our round together at Briggs Ranch with [USER=41109]@bigbov[/USER] and Rank. About in a way, it changed my perspective a lot.
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Cool. Having been there I’m sure it will hit. That was part of it was how into getting better Rank was. Then at the chipping green Danny having me bang chips for 30 minutes made me realize that a simple drill that I wasn’t doing could help me so much.
I’ll definitely tune into this later today.
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the new Tox legacy.
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that narrative is a lot more entertaining to me though.
Hahaha The [USER=2320]@Canadan[/USER] grips made me laugh out loud
I think the Netflix cup could have been a whole lot better if it wasn’t live.
i think about the approach we take to other sports: practice more than play, and when you play it’s competing to beat the other team/person.
golf is so often approached as a leisure activity, so there’s very little practice and much less emphasis on winning for most people.
if you really want to get better, approach it in a competitive manner: practice way more and care a lot more about what happens when you play.
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Hahaha The [USER=2320]@Canadan[/USER] grips made me laugh out loud
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i lines..
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Hahaha The [USER=2320]@Canadan[/USER] grips made me laugh out loud
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Ughhhhhhhhh
End of an era.
Listening now and looking forward to the GolfTec segment.
Haha pace should be shorter because of concessions. Nobody wants to concede…I can still hole this! LOL
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Haha pace should be shorter because of concessions. Nobody wants to concede…I can still hole this! LOL
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You putting for 4 from 15 ft? Okay, I might be able to hole this bunker shot for my 7, so hang tight.
[QUOTE=”JB, post: 11916506, member: 3″]
You putting for 4 from 15 ft? Okay, I might be able to hole this bunker shot for my 7, so hang tight.
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They’ll remember your twelve, Roy.
[QUOTE=”JB, post: 11916414, member: 3″]
When you listen to this, I talked a bit about our round together at Briggs Ranch with [USER=41109]@bigbov[/USER] and Rank. About in a way, it changed my perspective a lot.
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I will definitely be checking this out later. As we have discussed earlier I am making it a point to get better this winter. As Josh stated… I’m not worried about being a single digit right now but the 80’s again would be great. Used to be there.
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Cool. Having been there I’m sure it will hit. That was part of it was how into getting better Rank was. Then at the chipping green Danny having me bang chips for 30 minutes made me realize that a simple drill that I wasn’t doing could help me so much.
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Not sure if you noticed… I paid attention to a lot of that lesson. Tried it out next day and my chipping did improve.
Enjoyed the listen gents- few takeaways of my own:
– GolfTec swing evaluation in my future- just need to figure out which location
– I’m happy [USER=3]@JB[/USER] gained a bit of a new perspective on golf
Thanks gents!
[USER=3]@JB[/USER], just listened to you talk about the round and the group just enjoying playing despite all of us being on the hacker side of the internet golfer..
I can only speak from my perspective but I think [USER=41109]@bigbov[/USER] and Rank would agree with me.
I did not come in with expectations other than to have fun. I think starting with a shamble and getting into the flow of the experience was super helpful. I know some were worried that the nature of not having a competition would change the experience. For me not having any competition made it easy to just enjoy what an amazing experience we were having. I definitely would have been a bit frustrated had it been a competition by Tuesday. Most importantly though it was just a great 5 great guys (including Kyle) who made it easy to get into just enjoying the moment. I was legit in pain with my back and when no one scoffed at my first shank no one said anything and it made it easy. It was all about enjoying the course and the company. I genuinely like this golf by nature.
I want to get better for the next time I do an experience but I think I will approach it the same way. Just be in the moment and focus on what you can control which is to have fun.
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[USER=3]@JB[/USER], just listened to you talk about the round and the group just enjoying playing despite all of us being on the hacker side of the internet golfer..
I can only speak from my perspective but I think [USER=41109]@bigbov[/USER] and Rank would agree with me.
I did not come in with expectations other than to have fun. I think starting with a shamble and getting into the flow of the experience was super helpful. I know some were worried that the nature of not having a competition would change the experience. For me not having any competition made it easy to just enjoy what an amazing experience we were having. I definitely would have been a bit frustrated had it been a competition by Tuesday. Most importantly though it was just a great 5 great guys (including Kyle) who made it easy to get into just enjoying the moment. I was legit in pain with my back and when no one scoffed at my first shank no one said anything and it made it easy. It was all about enjoying the course and the company. I genuinely like this golf by nature.
I want to get better for the next time I do an experience but I think I will approach it the same way. Just be in the moment and focus on what you can control which is to have fun.
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I certainly agree w/ everything said here. Love that you included my man Kyle when saying all 5 of us because he certainly added to the enjoyment of the round.
I told Josh on Saturday when I picked him up at airport to just sit back, take it all in, and enjoy it. That first round made all of that possible.
[USER=3]@JB[/USER] with the fire take of Dan not being able to use iLines anymore, I hadn’t thought of that! ???
Also, [USER=2320]@Canadan[/USER] ST+2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MCC
Let me start by saying I’m not easily entertained by podcasts. But I really enjoyed this one.
While my world of golf may be very different than @Canadan’s and @JB’s, I found everything you guys talked about very relatable. Agree on what should be a reasonable expectation of pace of play on a typical day. Some of the points about improvement and enjoyment of the game hit really hit home.
Even as a huge fan of the LPGA, I understand why it isn’t for everyone. The top tier of men’s golf is the best level of golf out there. But that’s probably only due to distance. I forgot which of the LPGA players it was and the exact number, but there was recently a string of consecutive GIR that was just mind- boggling. (Looked it up… 63 by Jin Young Kim.) I guess if I were tasked with marketing the LPGA, that’s what I would bring up… numbers and stats that exceed what we see for the PGA.
Anyway, it was great to listen in on today’s episode and I’ll listen again. Thank you.
Curious what the ball line I have to test is.
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[USER=3]@JB[/USER] with the fire take of Dan not being able to use iLines anymore, I hadn’t thought of that! ???
Also, [USER=2320]@Canadan[/USER] ST+2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MCC
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Stop encouraging this!