Off Course is back this week with a fantastic show and this is episode 308. Hosted by Dan Edwards, each Friday we give you a deep look into the world of golf and equipment in a way unlike any other podcast has done before. Today, James Miles joins the show to discuss whether or not PGA Tour players are getting a bit too lax with the rules.
It wouldn’t be Off Course without some tangents, but Dan and James dive into many topics including PGA Tour players vs the rules and how to make practicing a bit more fun. This show has a lot going on and is one you will not want to miss as James Miles goes Off Course.

Episode 308 is here and Dan and James discuss the following topics and a whole lot more.
Are Tour pros getting too casual with the rules?
Making the PGA Tour Finale worth watching
Is practicing golf fun again?
Watching your swing on video can be so brutal
The benefits and education side of GolfTec instruction
And so much more
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I look forward to listening to this episode.
Always nice to see Jman jump on!
Listening to [USER=2320]@Canadan[/USER] and [USER=1579]@Jman[/USER] is always fun. Starting this now.
We back! Looking forward to it
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Always nice to see Jman jump on!
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First one from his new house, finally ready for some Off Course chaos haha
Can’t wait to watch this one.
[QUOTE=”Canadan, post: 14288315, member: 2320″]
First one from his new house, finally ready for some Off Course chaos haha
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And he’s already got a great set up from the looks of it! I’ll be expecting many more Jman guest appearances then lol
I am really looking forward to hearing what you guys think about the casual nature of the pros these days. Whether or not they deserve to be penalized until they start taking the rules more seriously again.
[QUOTE=”Canadan, post: 14288540, member: 2320″]
I am really looking forward to hearing what you guys think about the casual nature of the pros these days. Whether or not they deserve to be penalized until they start taking the rules more seriously again.
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Until they start getting penalized for these iffy infractions where it seems like intent is what would determine a penalty or not, I don’t see it changing.
[QUOTE=”Coulter, post: 14288550, member: 84628″]
Until they start getting penalized for these iffy infractions where it seems like intent is what would determine a penalty or not, I don’t see it changing.
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It’s really funny to me how bothered they are when asked about it. And even more bothered when they actually get called on it.
Like it shouldn’t even be a conversation.
[QUOTE=”Canadan, post: 14288554, member: 2320″]
It’s really funny to me how bothered they are when asked about it. And even more bothered when they actually get called on it.
Like it shouldn’t even be a conversation.
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That’s usually a pretty big tell..
[QUOTE=”Canadan, post: 14288554, member: 2320″]
It’s really funny to me how bothered they are when asked about it. And even more bothered when they actually get called on it.
Like it shouldn’t even be a conversation.
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There’s a particular group of them that seems to whine the loudest too.
I’d love to see the tour start handing out penalties for guys being so casual about how they mash down the areas around their golf balls and such. The amount of crying about how they didn’t intend to do anything like that, and some guys get punished because they are on tv more and it’s unfair would be hilarious.
We all know this isn’t going to happen though. I mean there was big talk about pace of play a while back and the only person I can remember getting penalized was an amateur player at the masters.
Sure Bryson got penalized for stepping around his ball like bull in a China shop, but Bryson is seen as one of the bad guys since LIV so that’s acceptable. But the tour will never punish Rory or Scotty or any number of players for that.
[QUOTE=”TWright, post: 14288840, member: 11048″]
I’d love to see the tour start handing out penalties for guys being so casual about how they mash down the areas around their golf balls and such. The amount of crying about how they didn’t intend to do anything like that, and some guys get punished because they are on tv more and it’s unfair would be hilarious.
We all know this isn’t going to happen though. I mean there was big talk about pace of play a while back and the only person I can remember getting penalized was an amateur player at the masters.
Sure Bryson got penalized for stepping around his ball like bull in a China shop, but Bryson is seen as one of the bad guys since LIV so that’s acceptable. But the tour will never punish Rory or Scotty or any number of players for that.
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cracking down on pace of play was one of the bigger farces on tour in some time lmao
Great episode [USER=2320]@Canadan[/USER] & [USER=1579]@Jman[/USER]
I specifically like the breakdown of GolfTec and the intimidation that comes with practicing and seeing how terrible your swing really is. During my time with GolfTec I am not sure I have hit a full shot but we have made progress and it has helped me understand positions.
I am not great hitting balls indoors and this has helped me focus on the positions and leave my ball flight and distance for when I practice outside.
[QUOTE=”MikeG, post: 14289212, member: 15992″]
Great episode [USER=2320]@Canadan[/USER] & [USER=1579]@Jman[/USER]
I specifically like the breakdown of GolfTec and the intimidation that comes with practicing and seeing how terrible your swing really is. During my time with GolfTec I am not sure I have hit a full shot but we have made progress and it has helped me understand positions.
I am not great hitting balls indoors and this has helped me focus on the positions and leave my ball flight and distance for when I practice outside.
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I didn’t realize how valuable learning some of those angles were until I saw the difference and applied with with GT.
it’s kind of awesome.
[QUOTE=”Canadan, post: 14289232, member: 2320″]
I didn’t realize how valuable learning some of those angles were until I saw the difference and applied with with GT.
it’s kind of awesome.
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it really is. My biggest flaw is position 6 and losing the angle before impact which is casting and losing all the power I built up through my swing. My coach used DJ as the example and i was like “yeah thats not going to help me”… so he queued up Daniel Summerhays and it made more sense, lol
Only part of the way through but I think you guys nailed it about attracting other people to watch golf. The Masters was a great example. My wife follows a lot of golf but would pass on Sunday to watch the Par 3 contest. The whole thing is a family event now.
Not sure how coverage could evolve. Maybe only clutch putts or just birdies and bogies? It needs to, even if it cuts into my golf nap.
Feels like it has been a min since [USER=1579]@Jman[/USER] was on the pod.. Will check it out later today.
[QUOTE=”Bosco…, post: 14289297, member: 65357″]
Only part of the way through but I think you guys nailed it about attracting other people to watch golf. The Masters was a great example. My wife follows a lot of golf but would pass on Sunday to watch the Par 3 contest. The whole thing is a family event now.
Not sure how coverage could evolve. Maybe only clutch putts or just birdies and bogies? It needs to, even if it cuts into my golf nap.
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The funny thing there is I couldn’t care less about the Masters Par 3 contest. I actually find it kinda annoying.
I’ll catch this the next few trips to and from work
[QUOTE=”Templet0n, post: 14289300, member: 53139″]
The funny thing there is I couldn’t care less about the Masters Par 3 contest. I actually find it kinda annoying.
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Man, how can you not love Frankie???
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working my way through this episode. Just wrapped up the Tour talk. I really dont understand why the Tour has no spine to actually enforce the rules of golf. I get the issue starts with golfers are supposed to hold themselves to the rules of golf. but there is just so much money involved. of course the rules will get blurred.
it’s the tours job to adjudicate the fairness of play on THEIR Tour.
[QUOTE=”Bosco…, post: 14289375, member: 65357″]
Man, how can you not love Frankie???
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never said anything about Frankie.
I heard a comment from Kiz about and he kind of blew it off. Maybe he does it too. 🤣
The discussion about Rolapp comparing the playoffs to the NHL and NFL is an interesting one and I do wonder how much of that stems from how much time he spent with the NFL.
Half way through, great conversation so far. I’m in the middle of it, and 💯 agree so far, PGA tour is boring now, they need to figure it out, and agree with what [USER=1579]@Jman[/USER] said, find a way to get the younger crowd more into it.
[QUOTE=”Misike, post: 14289444, member: 19212″]
Half way through, great conversation so far. I’m in the middle of it, and 💯 agree so far, PGA tour is boring now, they need to figure it out, and agree with what [USER=1579]@Jman[/USER] said, find a way to get the younger crowd more into it.
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what do you think makes that happen?
[QUOTE=”amarkabove, post: 14289407, member: 75272″]
The discussion about Rolapp comparing the playoffs to the NHL and NFL is an interesting one and I do wonder how much of that stems from how much time he spent with the NFL.
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Yeah, his comment was surprisingly within the confines of reality which was refreshing.
[I]“We’re trying to make the Tour Championship matter more,” Rolapp told Golf Channel’s Rich Lerner and Brandel Chamblee after his presser. “Let’s be honest, I think calling the Tour Championship the playoffs doesn’t really land in golf. It’s not the NHL, it’s not the NFL; it’s just different. So, I think we started from, how do we just make a separate but equally grueling and challenging and interesting championship tournament to capstone our season?”[/I]
[QUOTE=”Canadan, post: 14289493, member: 2320″]
Yeah, his comment was surprisingly within the confines of reality which was refreshing.
[I]“We’re trying to make the Tour Championship matter more,” Rolapp told Golf Channel’s Rich Lerner and Brandel Chamblee after his presser. “Let’s be honest, I think calling the Tour Championship the playoffs doesn’t really land in golf. It’s not the NHL, it’s not the NFL; it’s just different. So, I think we started from, how do we just make a separate but equally grueling and challenging and interesting championship tournament to capstone our season?”[/I]
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Refreshing is a good word for it. Quite the departure from Monahan and leaves me cautiously optimistic about the future of the Tour.
The conversation around practice was fascinating. I also get a small chuckle out of [USER=1579]@Jman[/USER] being historically practice adverse despite being a HS coach himself once upon a time.
I’m here for Mallet Ponder 2026
[QUOTE=”Canadan, post: 14289492, member: 2320″]
what do you think makes that happen?
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Good question and I’m not sure. But, my kids 12 and 14 are both YouTube generation. It’s what they watch the most. The 12 year old does not golf, but he knows Good Good and Grant Horvat from YouTube, but anytime I flip on PGA tour they both zone out.
[QUOTE=”amarkabove, post: 14289518, member: 75272″]
The conversation around practice was fascinating. I also get a small chuckle out of [USER=1579]@Jman[/USER] being historically practice adverse despite being a HS coach himself once upon a time.
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Last thing I wanted to do after watching hours of range with HS golf swings daily was to go hit range myself.
[QUOTE=”Jman, post: 14289639, member: 1579″]
Last thing I wanted to do after watching hours of range with HS golf swings daily was to go hit range myself.
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This makes complete sense to me.
Now then, how do we get [USER=2320]@Canadan[/USER] into a Toulon Bixby?
[QUOTE=”amarkabove, post: 14289644, member: 75272″]
This makes complete sense to me.
Now then, how do we get [USER=2320]@Canadan[/USER] into a Toulon Bixby?
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I think there’s a better chance of him visiting Bixby, OK than that
[QUOTE=”Jman, post: 14289673, member: 1579″]
I think there’s a better chance of him visiting Bixby, OK than that
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I don’t know, man… Mallet ponder 2026 is going to be electric.
[QUOTE=”Jman, post: 14289673, member: 1579″]
I think there’s a better chance of him visiting Bixby, OK than that
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Its gold. It’s bright blue accents. It’s a long neck. Its glorious Toulon in a fancy steel.
I think that’s the ideal gateway drug.
[USER=1579]@Jman[/USER] I borrowed three of [USER=16754]@AMart[/USER] ‘s mallets before the round today. Bailed on them before the round started and grabbed my Swanny.
Proceeded to make a mile worth of putts lmao.
This could be ending before it even starts.
[QUOTE=”Canadan, post: 14290848, member: 2320″]
[USER=1579]@Jman[/USER] I borrowed three of [USER=16754]@AMart[/USER] ‘s mallets before the round today. Bailed on them before the round started and grabbed my Swanny.
Proceeded to make a mile worth of putts lmao.
This could be ending before it even starts.
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I feel like Mallet Ponder would be more fruitful if not for that glorious Scotty.
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I feel like Mallet Ponder would be more fruitful if not for that glorious Scotty.
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Yeah, it’s an uphill battle for sure.
It truly was a great putting day.
[QUOTE=”Canadan, post: 14290866, member: 2320″]
Yeah, it’s an uphill battle for sure.
It truly was a great putting day.
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Great putting days are the best.
I put some 904L back in the bag today and had one myself.