Every sport has heroes and villains and the last two decades have shown that winning cures all. He has been on tour just short of 10 years and has built a pretty rock solid resume. Patrick Reed is good for golf.
Reed has 9 PGA Tour Victories and 3 wins on the Euro Tour. He is a major winner and has had a top 10 in every major and top 5 in 3 of the 4.
He is a good interview and says what’s on his mind.
He has had some brushes with the rules in the past, although I don’t believe yesterday was one of them.
So prove me wrong, Patrick Reed is good for golf.
He may generate ratings. Lotsa people want him to get his ass handed to him.
lmao, when the unoriginal get even more unoriginal. I wish it wasn’t true.
Then again, today he made me cheer for Rahm, and that is just unacceptable.
totally. Get it. They are all basically posting each other over and over. But it is being eaten up like chocolate.
It actually turned me off insta a lot, however, I know people love that quick laugh sort of experience now.
me included..
He may be someone to hate… But man that guy’s short game may be top 3 in the world right now. He is damn good with a wedge in hand. Why did he even attempt that pin on 18 with a 4 shot lead? He could have easily chunked it in the water, or spun it right off the green. Meanwhile, hits it to 8-9ft and daggers it. That’s a cold blooded man right there.
What I don’t agree with is we seen on tv it bounced. No way it impedes on second bounce. He asked the lady, he asked the group, he had no way of knowing it bounced. What I don’t agree with is him picking it up. You can hear his caddy say don’t pick it up or something to that affect. He places it down and when an official comes over Patrick plays it off and so on. The issue is there’s to many issues with Patrick to believe anything.
It’s a bad image. The pga seen the video, they were wrong but won’t admit it.
What I also don’t agree with is, every idiot on the planet can type in and call out some woman on the lpga for touching a grain of sand, zoomed in on the tv, get penalized, get dq’d BUT we don’t go to replay for this??? BS!
hold up. are you saying tigers masters drop puts him in the same class as reed? am i missing an entire portfolio of cheating as well as teammates calling tiger out for it like we have for reed??? otherwise that’s a prettttttttty big stretch.
Not at all. I was using an example of a generation great that grew the game despite on course antics and rules violation (off course exists too) and how winning cured it all.
WOW, sounds like you know Reed personally. Where you on that team? Or are you just making a comment by what you read on the internet?
If the question was “is he a nice guy” or “a good person” or we knew all of this was true, then I would agree. It wasn’t. People doing bad things have been good for sports in spots for generations. Whether that be driving under influence where harm to others could have happened, serial gambling, violence, etc etc.
His cheating is a disappointment, but every era of pro Tour golf has had a few players who routinely cheat, so what Reed does is nothing new.
No one really cares..
And dropping f-bombs into hot mics all over the course, and being a complete dick to fellow competitors, fans and the media. He got a free pass for all of that, and people were frantically rushing to his defense after his drop at the Masters. And what about the time he had fans from the gallery come out and remove a huge rock that was in the way of his shot?
Reed is no worse for the game than Tiger was. There are reasons he isn’t given the same latitude – some valid, some not.
He’s a great heel…
I gave him one from my fat boy days.
I’m not sure how you get that. I’d suggest the majority of golfers first thought when they hear the name is cheating douche bag. Given those two things are completely accurate, how is he good for the game?
He is great for the Ryder Cup team and golf needs a villain. People tune in to see him including the haters. Sergio has been a douche bag on the course for decades and he is good for the game as well. Polarizing sports figures attract more attention to their sports.
No pattern of questionable rules issues for TW. PR has a habit of playing fast and loose with the rules. I can’t tell you how many times we have had issues with junior golfers soling a 3 wood behind their ball when they have no intention of hitting it, because that’s what PR does. They learned that fro Mr Reed. It the continued transgressions and multiple issues, one of two is one thing, but there haveR been several issues, and many many that have not been called out but a simple youtube search will show many examples of his fudging lies. He is very talented there is no doubt, but he is not good for the game IMHO.
You could search for “cheating” with just about any top player and find many “loose” interpretations. I still can’t fathom how the role model thing is being used when some of the greats had so many issues on and off that it’s head spinning.
Social media charges environment and it’s obviously called to the forefront vs TWs drop or IJP anti Semitic words or drug offenses, etc etc etc. but I’m not sure I can buy the role model idea as a reasoning. In my opinion anyway. Not when the sports biggest role models have struggled with so many of their own on and off the course
Jimmy Connors, John McEnroe, Billy Martin, Bobby Knight etc..all sold lots of tickets.
Sergio isn’t a cheat, though.
I clearly saw him cheat in Abu Dhabi by tamping down some marks on the green although an official cleared him of, my eyes weren’t lying to me. Tiger bent the rules more than once including the boulder incident. Sergio was also DQ’d for damaging greens at a tournament and was also caught on tape spitting into the cup at a tournament. In my book Reed and Garcia are both D’bags and both are good for the game.
nbc really beat a dead horse on that ruling meanwhile Rory was clearly in the wring with his drop but it git 1/4 of the amount of mentions.,,,
Reed seems to be one of the most mentally sound players on tour which speaks volumes for the negative press he gets. So yes, I do think he is great for golf.
im curious…..how at all is Reed in any comparison to Ian Poulter? Other than them both being incredibly good singles match play players.
Honestly I don’t care about his supposed character flaws, I don’t care if the news media and twitterverse paint him as a "Bad Person" – anyone who trusts the opinions of those two sources, is diluted.
It’s no different then when I watch Tiger, he’s just so much fun to watch, because of his golfing talent. I don’t care that he has a colorful past and that he’s made a few mistakes in his life – we all have. No one paints Tiger as the "Bad Guy" just because of his past – he’s loved and defended by most golf fans.
I agree in terms of the role models, I dont think athletes should be role models per see. But in the case of golf (and how the sport ismnplayed), the PGA tour players tend to set the tone for younger players (and much of the population) in terms of fashion, equipment and how the game is played. If PR has the image of winning while manipulating the rules or cheating it will have a negative trickle down effect in golf.
Portrayed as the villain, I don’t see how this is anymore possible than what we have witnessed the last 2 decades. Reed isn’t new on tour, or new to controversy and yet it has not trickled down as far as I can tell to players all of the sudden taking short cuts. Anymore than they would from other players that have done the same. While I agree that constant club throwing and slow play has trickled down, I do not think a cheating (which his past is up for interpretation) is a trickle down with how he has been portrayed to the public. Young players do not want to be vilified, and if one thing we know for sure, tantrums, off course issues, etc etc etc has not vilified players at all yet.
I can’t say it is directly connected and it could be blamed on many things, but I have seen an uptick in juniors cheating over the past several years. The reason I am very adamant about Reed is that on two recent occasions while serving on the rules committee in a State Championship, we have had an issue with a golfer using a FW wood to improve his lie by crushing down the grass behind his ball, then switch to an iron (he was called on it, and the kid was in no way going to hit a fw from where he was) and the response was that he had seen PGA guys do it so he thought it was allowed (this is one move Reed likes to do). My main point is whether its a golfer or a baseball player who is playing loose and fast with the rules, and that athlete is having success, others will follow that lead to gain a perceived competitive advantage.
Reed has a long history of being a suspected thief and his cheating rumors go all the back to his college days,(not to mention he has also done what Speith had done with his ANti gay slur in China in 2017). and yet he has so much talent that he wins, and has been/is close again to a world top ten ranking. We get that these guys are human, but it is a constant issue with this guy. His dark cloud is not good for the game.
Im not sure "constant issue" is really applicable for at most a handful of issues in 10 years on Tour.
By the logic above, Jon Rahm would be bad for golf, as would about a dozen other tour players.
FWIW, I am pretty sure you mean Justin Thomas. Who by many of these posts is absolutely bad for golf, which I also do not believe.
Or for the subject, we need 144 Scott Stallings out there (using random winner on the PGA Tour) who nobody notices as they just kind of blend in.
Yes meant Justin Thomas..lol. I will concede in regards to watching golf yesterday, I did like rooting against him, otherwise it would of been a boring watch.