Historically, “How can I increase my swing speed?” is one of the most asked questions on golf forums. It seems like even faster swinging golfers aren’t immune to the desire for more speed, but it’s especially sought after by your typical amateur. After all, an additional 20 to 30 yards off the tee has the potential to change one’s game. It can easily be the difference between using a 7 iron or a pitching wedge for an approach shot into the green. Sure, we can move up tee boxes to offset slower swings, but that doesn’t change the simple fact that almost every golfer would like to hit the ball a little further.
Getting more speed isn’t exactly easy though. Technique certainly comes into play, as do a myriad of other factors like age, physical fitness, and mobility. However, it can be done with disciplined work. In recent years, several different speed building products have come to the market, and they’ve produced varying results. The concept of overspeed training has become particularly popular and it’s been introduced to consumers in varying ways. The idea behind overspeed training is simple: by taking the ball away and using some sort of weighted club replacement in conjunction with a specialized program of swinging, you can train both the mind and muscles to swing faster. Different companies have different approaches to this, but in general most rely on using shafts with varying weights at the end. Some are lighter than a driver head and some are quite a bit heavier.

After extensively using the products that were on the market, two long drive enthusiasts, Dr. Sam Attanasio and Bryce Mooney, weren’t really pleased with their results. They found that these systems worked well for adding speed when using the training aids, but those speed gains didn’t fully translate to real swings with a driver. Over time they began to believe that the primary disconnect was related to the fact that they weren’t using their actual golf shafts with these other overspeed systems. As we all know, driver shafts are all very different and every golfer tends to have a shaft that works best for their swing. Shafts are primarily timing mechanisms, so it does make sense that spending a great deal of time using a training aid unlike your actual driver shaft would cause some issues.
The two set out in a quest to build a better overspeed system and from that effort Speed Toad was born. Originally not intended as a commercial product, but rather one that the two long drivers could use to improve their own performance, it was eventually brought to market.
Speed Toad

As you might have guessed, the thing that really sets Speed Toad apart from its competitors is the fact that it can be attached directly to your golf shaft. In fact, it comes with four different screws that make it compatible with nine different driver adapters, including Callaway, TaylorMade, Titleist, Ping, Cobra, PXG, Srixon, Mizuno, and Krank. Speed Toad attaches via the same torque wrench that you already use with your adjustable driver, so there are no additional items needed to make it compatible other than what comes in the box.
A deep dive into Speed Toad reveals another key difference. Rather than a system that relies on multiple weights, it only comes in a single weight – 140 grams to be exact. This is actually lighter than a typical driver head by about 50 grams. Yes, this does seem counterintuitive when we look at it from the frame of reference that other overspeed products have created. The team at Speed Toad eventually settled on the 140-gram weight because it was what produced the best results for them over six months of testing prototypes. Not only did Speed Toad train their bodies and brains to swing faster, it encouraged proper sequencing by incorporating the shaft they used on the golf course.

Of course, we could just leave the explanation at that, but the reality is that it really did produce results for the two. Attanasio ended up breaking the world record for fastest ball speed at a blistering 245mph after using the system he built, and along with it recorded a swing speed at 172.5mph. Mooney was able to produce over 220mph of ball speed. While 99% of us will not ever approach those types of numbers, it does show that there is the potential to make meaningful gains with the Speed Toad.
Speed Training Program

You can buy all the training aids in the world, but they aren’t going to do much for you without a structured program. As long drivers, the Speed Toad team was well aware of this and set out to create a program they felt would deliver results to every golfer. Their program features four levels and a maintenance routine that is included with the purchase of the product.
Customers are given access to the Speed Toad app, which contains a variety of different features to guide you along the way. Most important is the actual 8-week program, with each completed level unlocking the next step. In addition to a structured swing routine, the program highlights a variety of exercises to both build strength and prepare your body for training. A handy calendar makes it clear exactly what you should be doing every day, whether that is training or rest.

We’ve used overspeed training products in the past and believe that they are most effective when used with a speed tracking device. The PRGR Portable Launch monitor is cost effective solution for this and can be purchased separately. We can’t emphasize this enough – if you are going to go to the trouble of starting a program like this you need to have a way to measure your progress.
Speaking of progress, the Speed Toad app allows both logging and performance tracking over time, so you have an easy way to see how far you’ve come. It tracks not only training performance (how fast you swing the training aid), but also how fast you’re swinging your actual golf clubs. You can choose to display your results to others in the program or keep them to yourself. In all, it’s a very useful addition to the Speed Toad trainer and should provide just enough information to keep users motivated along the way.
Details

Stay tuned to the THP Forums as we test Speed Toad out over the upcoming winter. In addition, several of our forum members have begun the program with promising results.
The company notes that Speed Toad will not harm your driver shaft, as the screws hold it securely in place on the end of your driver. In addition, since it’s lighter than a driver head it will not put undue stress on your shaft.
More information, including ordering, can be found at the company’s website, thespeedtoad.com. Speed Toad is priced at $124.99 and includes four screws that enable it to fit nine different driver adapters, a soft carrying bag, and access to the Speed Toad training program.
I am very confused by this type of stuff. I bought the stack system with almost zero positive results other than the “opportunity “ to retrain my swing to something serviceable at the start of last year. What makes it so much better to use something attached to your shaft instead of just using your driver as is and hit balls while doing the drills? I can make a 120mph club sped without a ball that needs to go straight but I have to back it off to 105-110 to keep it anywhere on the planet, so what did I gain other than bad habits? Over speed training is a myth imho I do not learn to run faster if I train naked and it help when I wear cloths to run.
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I am very confused by this type of stuff. I bought the stack system with almost zero positive results other than the “opportunity “ to retrain my swing to something serviceable at the start of last year. What makes it so much better to use something attached to your shaft instead of just using your driver as is and hit balls while doing the drills? I can make a 120mph club sped without a ball that needs to go straight but I have to back it off to 105-110 to keep it anywhere on the planet, so what did I gain other than bad habits?
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[B]Over speed training is a myth imho. I do not learn to run faster if I train naked, and it helps when I wear cloths to run.[/B]
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Very interesting.
What do others think about this?
Is there actual data-driven evidence that proves that over speed training works?
[QUOTE=”DGA3, post: 12840574, member: 74680″]
Very interesting.
What do others think about this?
Is there actual data-driven evidence that proves that over speed training works?
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I don’t know what studies are available and generally have listened to the stories/sales pitch from the companies.
I will start with saying Kyle Berkshire used to and maybe still does not use any of these aids to over speed train. His method is teaching his body to speed up through swinging as hard as he can over and over again.
Where I see the benefit in this product and other products is that the average person through lesser reps can potentially learn the feeling of faster swings and then translating them to a slightly heavier club head.
What I see as a benefit of the product is the program to follow with a tool to boost that programs results and potentially getting me comfortable at a higher cruising speed. When I first used the aero swing when I was much slower it got me from 93 average to 101 average. However that method caused wrist pain due to the added weight and why I stopped using it. Currently cruising in the 100-105 range 2 years later and hope to get to 115 through this new program in 2025.
Only time will tell how effective it is.
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I’m on Week 8 of the Level 1 program and I’ve gained at least 3 mph or so of swing speed. Hit a few mph higher than that back in Week 5 but then I got sick and went to California for a week so I‘ve been working to get back to my peak of the program. As far as past experience with speed training, II was a pretty committed Stack user about 3 years ago and have been more of an occasional user the past couple of years. 5+ years ago I had a set of SuperSpeed sticks but didn’t use them long as I didn’t really have a place to do them inside during the winter months.
In general I’ve liked the aspect of using my own shaft with the Speed Toad. Effectiveness aside, it just feels “nicer” to use a shaft that fits me vs. the “universal” ones that come with other systems. Since I have some experience with speed training and I’m playing irregularly right now, I’m not sure I’m the best to objectively say whether using my shaft helps translate to the course better, but when I’m using my driver and trying to conjure up some speed, it does feel like dialing up the sensation from the Speed Toad is a little more direct than dialing up the feeling from other systems.
I haven’t really experienced anything that would give me pause with continuing to use it with my gamer shaft. Hard to say for sure but kind of feels to me like the shaft would be undergoing more stress hitting a ball than what it does swinging the Speed Toad, but I obviously can’t verify that. I understand though the hesitation folks might have strapping their $350 Ventus or whatever on and swinging as fast as they can.
I had some trouble with the Cobra screw head socket stripping, and they sent me some replacements and seemed receptive to some feedback I gave on possibly making the socket a little deeper. Since switching to the Callaway adapter I’ve been a little more careful when tightening the screw and it’s hasn’t been an issue yet.
I’m looking forward to finishing up Level 1 this week and seeing what the Level 2 program looks like.
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This is good stuff. I read about your issues and love that company is responsive. That is that part that concerns me about screwing into your own shaft. That being said I’m considering giving this a try.
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This is good stuff. I read about your issues and love that company is responsive. That is that part that concerns me about screwing into your own shaft. That being said I’m considering giving this a try.
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I saw in their tutorial video on attaching it that they said do not tighten to the click. Tighten until it doesn’t spin which is less then the torque wrench click. I thought it was weird but this may make more sense after reading [USER=61852]@willplaysgolf[/USER] post.
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I saw in their tutorial video on attaching it that they said do not tighten to the click. Tighten until it doesn’t spin which is less then the torque wrench click. I thought it was weird but this may make more sense after reading [USER=61852]@willplaysgolf[/USER] post.
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Thats certainly different
[QUOTE=”Ludin, post: 12840771, member: 50957″]
I saw in their tutorial video on attaching it that they said do not tighten to the click. Tighten until it doesn’t spin which is less then the torque wrench click. I thought it was weird but this may make more sense after reading [USER=61852]@willplaysgolf[/USER] post.
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Yep they mentioned that to me when we were chatting about the stripping. Personally when trying to tighten less than the torque click I felt like I could spin the weight around a little bit, and generally don’t love the idea of torqueing it down less than what it would be in the driver head, even if I understand why I shouldn’t need to.
[QUOTE=”DGA3, post: 12840574, member: 74680″]
Very interesting.
What do others think about this?
Is there actual data-driven evidence that proves that over speed training works?
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I don’t have any links, but I think it’s been pretty well accepted that the training does work. It’s been around in other sports for decades, particularly baseball and sprinting. What is less often discussed is that the speeds that come from such training seem to be perishable—if you don’t stick with it, you tend to regress. Chris Finn of P4S and others have talked about this.
If you’re a tinkerer like me and have about 20 adapter screws in the club making drawer, I’ve found adding one of those gaskets to the speed toad screw to hold it on the weight is a nice quality of life improvement
My Speed Toad arrived yesterday! Planning on getting my first session in on Tuesday afternoon. Will report back my thoughts!
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Can you possibly post a photo of one of the gaskets? Sounds like a good addition?
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My Speed Toad arrived yesterday! Planning on getting my first session in on Tuesday afternoon. Will report back my thoughts!
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Awesome, look forward to the review!
[QUOTE=”AussieGuy, post: 12850104, member: 52921″]
Can you possibly post a photo of one of the gaskets? Sounds like a good addition?
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Here’s the gasket on an extra screw and inside the Speed Toad
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Ironically, I purchased this product when I kept seeing it on social media (as [USER=53737]@OldandStiff[/USER] mentioned) over the holiday and then just saw this thread this morning. Good write up, as always, @Hawk.” Mine is supposed to be delivered in the next couple of days. I am looking forward to it.
[QUOTE=”Canadan, post: 12835605, member: 2320″]
I know it says it’s lighter than what a typical driver weighs, but for some reason I’m a little bit weary using my gamer shaft like this.
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I had this concern as well, so I am planning on using a driver shaft that is not currently my gamer, but not from way in the past.
Finished up Level 1 over the weekend and started Level 2 today. The app automatically scheduled Level 2 on my usual days. Level 2 is 12 weeks long, and looks like the first half has pretty similar exercises as Level 1, but the second half there are some new wrinkles added.
Was thinking today that I like having both the step back and step forward swings in the program, as you get some different feels for generating power. Today for instance my step back Speed Toad was faster than my regular, and that feel helped me coax a good number out of my dry driver swings as well.
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Started Week 8 today and here is my progress so far, looks like I forgot to post Week 7:
Week 1 #1 – 104 dry Driver, 115 ST, 93 LH ST
Week 1 #2 – 116 ST, 89 LH ST, 110 dry Driver
Week 2 #1 – 121 ST, 94 LH ST, 112 dry Driver
Week 2 #2 – 122 ST, 92 LH ST, 113 dry Driver
Week 3 #1 – 123 ST, 123 Step Forward ST, 94 LH ST, 114 dry Driver
Week 3 #2 – 120 ST, 118 Step Back ST, 91 LH ST, 113 dry Driver
Week 4 #1 – 123 ST, 123 Step Forward ST, 100 LH ST, 114 dry Driver
Week 4 #2 – 122 ST, 118 Step Back ST, 93 LH ST, 114 dry Driver
Week 5 #1 – 124 ST, 127 Step Forward ST, 100 LH ST, 117 dry Driver
Week 5 #2 – 122 ST, 120 Step Back ST, 95 LH ST, 113 dry Driver
Week 6 #1 – 123 ST, 122 Step Forward ST, 102 LH ST, 115 dry Driver
Week 6 #2 – 123 ST, 121 Step Back ST, 99 LH ST, 114 dry Driver
Week 7 #1 – 123 ST, 125 Step Forward ST, 98 LH ST, 115 dry Driver
Week 7 #2 – 123 ST, 121 Step Back ST, 98 LH ST, 113 dry Driver
Week 8 #1 – 123 ST, 122 Step Forward ST, 98 LH ST, 113 dry Driver
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[QUOTE=”jdtox, post: 12854835, member: 5944″]
Am I reading this wrong or is there not much progress other than LH?
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[USER=5944]@jdtox[/USER] replying here to keep things in the article thread
To answer your question, yes and no, there’s a few things going on. Going from Week 1 #2 to Week 5 #2 I gained 7-8 mph on dry driver and speed toad which I think is pretty dang good. That was the last session I did before I got sick and went to Cali so there’s actually a 2 week gap between Week 5 #2, so I’ve been catching up a bit. Yesterday I hit 116 on dry driver so I think I’m back close. If you go off that 110 in Week 1 I think 6 mph is some pretty good progress over 10 or so weeks.
That 116-117 has kind of been my plateau doing other speed training, so I’m not necessarily expecting to gain another 6mph super quickly. I also know from doing other programs it’s pretty normal to be stuck in neutral for several weeks before seeing a bump. For example, below are the last couple of full Stack programs I completed.
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Man, great job [USER=1193]@Hawk[/USER] ! I am really interested in speed training, but have never done so before. I was looking at another system when I ran across this write up and it has me intrigued.
[QUOTE=”Redd, post: 12859149, member: 5622″]
Man, great job [USER=1193]@Hawk[/USER] ! I am really interested in speed training, but have never done so before. I was looking at another system when I ran across this write up and it has me intrigued.
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Thank you!
If I ever find a free 20 minutes this week I hope to get started.
Good luck with that (finding a free 20 minute window)! I’m definitely looking forward to following along.
I pretty easily get overwhelmed by "too many" options, so it’s easy to look at several in this segment and have a hard time knowing which way to even go. It becomes a situation, pretty easily, where I get stuck in research mode and can’t pull the trigger on anything. Having said that, the simplicity (in theory, at least) of the Speed Toad is enough to to pique my interest!
I kicked off training last night.
Few things I observed.
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I’m not fast as you can see. Long way to go.
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[QUOTE=”Hawk, post: 12875087, member: 1193″]
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Few things I observed.
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I’m not fast as you can see. Long way to go.
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Not fast? Isn’t 108 fast? I ordered one, but have been waiting until I got through my pneumonia before starting. I like that it is two days per week. When I did the Stack system, the frequency actually started to slow my swing down after a while, due to frequency and not having time to recover.
This might be a useful tool to get back into the swing of things post PT on the rotator cuff.
[QUOTE=”Tenputt, post: 12876772, member: 42964″]
Not fast? Isn’t 108 fast? I ordered one, but have been waiting until I got through my pneumonia before starting. I like that it is two days per week. When I did the Stack system, the frequency actually started to slow my swing down after a while, due to frequency and not having time to recover.
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Ehhh, 108 with a dry swing with the ST is very slow lol. Cranked a dry driver swing to 100 ? It’s ok – I’m confident it’ll start to move upward quickly. I’m working hard on sequencing with my instructor right now too.
[QUOTE=”Hawk, post: 12875087, member: 1193″]
I kicked off training last night.
Few things I observed.
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I’m not fast as you can see. Long way to go.
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Thanks so much for this Hawk, I’m waiting for mine to turn up. Bloody ebay international delivery takes forever!!
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Thanks so much for this Hawk, I’m waiting for mine to turn up. Bloody ebay international delivery takes forever!!
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I’m dealing with my own domestic shipping issues right now. Blah!
Week 1, Day 2
Did leg day about two hours earlier, so that surely impacted my final result. Driver swing was faster. Speed Toad one mph slower. Felt good though.
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After being sick for most of the last two weeks I finally got to break out the Speed Toad for the first time today. 110 Toad, 103 Driver, 99 Lefty.
So good news, speed toad arrived today. Bad news, you need your order number to download the app. Since I purchased internationally through ebay as requested no order number was supplied. This looks to be an oversight, have reached out to the team at speed toad.
Here are my numbers through 2.5 weeks of Level 2. Haven’t really hit any new PBs in Level 2 as of yet and have kind of just held steady. I’ve started working out some on non speed toad days to try to raise my potential, and have also had some pretty cold days in the garage, both of which have probably tempered my short term gains just a little bit. I’ve been seeing some small but noticeable ball speed gains with the driver over the last few weeks which has kept me encouraged to stick with the program.
Level 1 PBs – 124 ST, 127 Step Forward ST, 122 Step Back ST, 104 LH ST, 117 dry driver
Level 2:
Week 1 #1 – 124 ST, 125 Step Back ST, 102 LH ST, 116 dry driver
Week 1 #2 – 124 ST, 123 Step Back ST, 104 LH ST, 114 dry driver
Week 2 #1 – 123 ST, 122 Step Back ST, 102 LH ST, 115 dry driver
Week 2 #2 – 123 ST, 124 Step Back ST, 104 LH ST, 113 dry driver
Week 3 #1 – 124 ST, 123 Step Back ST, 99 LH ST, 115 dry driver
I missed my Wednesday workout. Crazy week. Got after it today and saw some upward movement all around!
Took dry PW swings after and was ranging between 87-92mph as well. Those are almost impossible to grasp for me. Ball changed that and I dropped, but was still in the low 80’s. Good day!!
Feel like the more I am patient, load my lead side, and explode from the ground the better. This is also what I’m working on in lessons right now.
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A few things I’ve noticed compared to other training programs I’ve done.
I really like the feel of the Speed Toad. It’s got my grip on it. It’s got my shaft. It just feels natural and moving to my driver doesn’t have that unusual acclimation time.
I personally have found that I don’t miss the “heavy” sticks I’ve used. I lift enough weight during the week that actually builds muscle/strength. This feels like a way that I can focus on technique and just moving fast. So far, I’m impressed. Doesn’t help that I’m seeing some gains while not feeling like I’m on the edge of injury too.
[QUOTE=”Hawk, post: 12897314, member: 1193″]
A few things I’ve noticed compared to other training programs I’ve done.
I really like the feel of the Speed Toad. It’s got my grip on it. It’s got my shaft. It just feels natural and moving to my driver doesn’t have that unusual acclimation time.
I personally have found that I don’t miss the “heavy” sticks I’ve used. I lift enough weight during the week that actually builds muscle/strength. This feels like a way that I can focus on technique and just moving fast. So far, I’m impressed. Doesn’t help that I’m seeing some gains while not feeling like I’m on the edge of injury too.
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Have you had any issues with the weight coming loose or the screw?
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Have you had any issues with the weight coming loose or the screw?
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Not at all. I’ve also taken their advice and used warmup swings between driver and Speed Toad. I start at around 50% and then ramp up. That’s kept me from having any issues of bottoming out.
I keep looking at my Speed Sticks in the corner, that never get used, and wonder if I would use the Speed Toad more.
I dig the addition of the App with training routine, and remember really not liking the wat that is presented with the Speed Sticks.
Finished up Level 2 Week 4 yesterday. I was feeling good and thought for sure I was gonna hit 118 on dry driver but came up just short
Level 1 PBs – 124 ST, 127 Step Forward ST, 122 Step Back ST, 104 LH ST, 117 dry driver
Level 2:
Week 1 #1 – 124 ST, 125 Step Back ST, 102 LH ST, 116 dry driver
Week 1 #2 – 124 ST, 123 Step Back ST, 104 LH ST, 114 dry driver
Week 2 #1 – 123 ST, 122 Step Back ST, 102 LH ST, 115 dry driver
Week 2 #2 – 123 ST, 124 Step Back ST, 104 LH ST, 113 dry driver
Week 3 #1 – 124 ST, 123 Step Back ST, 99 LH ST, 115 dry driver
Week 3 #2 – 121 ST, 121 Step Back ST, 103 LH ST, 113 dry driver
Week 4 #1 – 122 ST, 125 Step Back ST, 101 LH ST, 115 dry driver
Week 4 #2 – 125 ST, 126 Step Back ST, 103 LH ST, 117 dry driver
Nice little breakthrough today. Felt good.
Level 1 PBs – 124 ST, 127 Step Forward ST, 122 Step Back ST, 104 LH ST, 117 dry driver
Level 2:
Week 1 #1 – 124 ST, 125 Step Back ST, 102 LH ST, 116 dry driver
Week 1 #2 – 124 ST, 123 Step Back ST, 104 LH ST, 114 dry driver
Week 2 #1 – 123 ST, 122 Step Back ST, 102 LH ST, 115 dry driver
Week 2 #2 – 123 ST, 124 Step Back ST, 104 LH ST, 113 dry driver
Week 3 #1 – 124 ST, 123 Step Back ST, 99 LH ST, 115 dry driver
Week 3 #2 – 121 ST, 121 Step Back ST, 103 LH ST, 113 dry driver
Week 4 #1 – 122 ST, 125 Step Back ST, 101 LH ST, 115 dry driver
Week 4 #2 – 125 ST, 126 Step Back ST, 103 LH ST, 117 dry driver
Week 5 #1 – 125 ST, 125 Step Forward ST, 103 LH ST, 117 dry driver
Week 5 #2 – 127 ST, 126 Step Forward ST, 101 LH ST, 119 dry driver
[QUOTE=”Hawk, post: 12893716, member: 1193″]
I missed my Wednesday workout. Crazy week. Got after it today and saw some upward movement all around!
Took dry PW swings after and was ranging between 87-92mph as well. Those are almost impossible to grasp for me. Ball changed that and I dropped, but was still in the low 80’s. Good day!!
Feel like the more I am patient, load my lead side, and explode from the ground the better. This is also what I’m working on in lessons right now.
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Looks like a great warmup routine that could carry over to the course
Saw Speed Toad giving THP love on their Insta: