Golfers agree on very few things. Equipment preferences vary wildly. Opinions on course conditions can change from one group to the next. Even something as simple as golf fashion can create spirited debate.
Pace of play, though? Surely we can find some common ground there.
Nearly every golfer agrees that slow play is a problem, but we have seen the disagreement begin when we ask how much it should impact the experience.
That question serves as the foundation for Episode 2 of Splitting Fairways, the THP podcast where Ryan “Hawk” and Jeremy “Lord Tox” explore the conversations golfers are already having every day. Rather than trying to determine who is right and who is wrong, the show examines both sides of golf’s most divisive topics and the perspectives that shape them.
This week, the discussion shifts from golf fashion to one of the most common complaints in the game.

Are golfers too obsessed with pace of play?
The topic originated from a discussion on the THP Forum that challenged a common assumption. The original post wasn’t defending slow play. Instead, it questioned whether golfers sometimes allow pace of play to affect their enjoyment of the game more than it should.
Predictably, the responses were divided.
One side argued that pace matters because golf is a shared experience. Slow groups impact everyone behind them, disrupt rhythm, and demonstrate a lack of awareness for other players on the course.
The opposing view suggested that golfers have become conditioned to treat every delay as a crisis. Waiting occasionally is not the same thing as slow play, and in an era of increased participation and crowded tee sheets, some delays are simply part of the experience.
As the episode unfolds, the conversation moves well beyond pace of play itself.
Topics such as golf’s continued growth, public versus private course expectations, respect for fellow golfers, and modern expectations of convenience all become part of the discussion. Along the way, several memorable comments from THP Forum members help illustrate just how passionate golfers can become when discussing pace.
Whether you believe slow play is one of the game’s biggest issues or think golfers sometimes allow it to overshadow an otherwise enjoyable round, Episode 2 explores both perspectives.
After listening, we want to hear from you.
Is slow play ruining golf, or are golfers letting it ruin golf?
Let us know where you stand in the comments below.
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it literally happened this year.
Which was discussed earlier. The first group out on the entire course, meaning the entire course to themselves, let alone a shamble so you don’t have to spend forever getting to each ball, and a forecaddie grabbing the ball for you raking finding everything, etc..
That group was 15 minutes behind pace, which was 430, which is wildly generous. The pacesetter for the entire golf course had the assistance and a format that’s faster and couldn’t finish in 4 1/2 hours.
Nobody will ever convince me that that is OK
But it’s over and done with and I still like @THE BOV
[QUOTE=”THE BOV, post: 14138107, member: 41109″]
I’d love to golf w/ you again my friend.
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We’ll have to make it happen somehow. I don’t know when I’m gonna be in Southern Canada, though.
[QUOTE=”hackitup, post: 14138370, member: 42140″]
We’ll have to make it happen somehow. I don’t know when I’m gonna be in Southern Canada, though.
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I much prefer to drive south.
[QUOTE=”JB, post: 14138360, member: 3″]
it literally happened this year.
Which was discussed earlier. The first group out on the entire course, meaning the entire course to themselves, let alone a shamble so you don’t have to spend forever getting to each ball, and a forecaddie grabbing the ball for you raking finding everything, etc..
That group was 15 minutes behind pace, which was 430, which is wildly generous. The pacesetter for the entire golf course had the assistance and a format that’s faster and couldn’t finish in 4 1/2 hours.
Nobody will ever convince me that that is OK
But it’s over and done with and I still like [USER=41109]@THE BOV[/USER]
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I still want my hug…
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Love this episode. I love the sentiment at the end of this, where you talked about how you don’t mind if a round takes you four or five hours. You just care about whether or not you’re waiting for each shot. This is the most important thing for me as well. I couldn’t care less if it takes me four and a half hours to play a round as long as I’m not waiting for my shot or if I don’t have someone pressing me on each hole.
[QUOTE=”THE BOV, post: 14138464, member: 41109″]
I still want my hug…
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Never
I’ll also add that if it’s taking me four to four and a half hours to play around and I’m the first one out, I’ll be a little frustrated with my playing partners.
[QUOTE=”JB, post: 14138477, member: 3″]
Never
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[QUOTE=”liquidcowboy, post: 14136441, member: 22394″]
If you can’t respect the POP and have 0 consideration for others that paid to be on the course as well, maybe stay home too!
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Don’t take me wrong, I play quickly and enjoy a brisk POP. If I feel that my group is falling behind the pace, I’ll try to get us moving. But it’s just that sometimes s**t happens. Like everybody in the group in front of you all have a blow up hole at the same time! That has happened to my group as well, where we all butcher the same hole! It make you self conscious, believe me.
Or, and this actually happened, we had an 11AM tee time, and were told we had to tee off on the back because the course had an outing coming in. Arriving at the 10th tee we see that have a foursome of really old dudes on the gold tees, and another foursome of them in the fairway. After waiting 20 minutes and not being able to tee off, we went back to have a word with the starter. On the way I was to have a look at their pavilions, and there was no one setting up! I asked the starter when this outing was scheduled to tee off, and when he said 1PM I almost lost my cool. I told him in no uncertain terms that we were going to tee off on #1 because the outing would never lay eyes on us. And they didn’t However, we did catch up to that second group of oldster on #18, and had to wait on the tee a little bit.
I’m glad it was mentioned that keeping good pace doesn’t mean you sprint and hate it the whole time. Just don’t hold people up. Play ready golf and be aware of those around you. Shouldn’t be this difficult lol
[QUOTE=”E.Appleton, post: 14135429, member: 80462″]
May be true, but at least it’s something you can try. Can’t fully complain unless you try and solve the problem. Obviously it shouldn’t be patrons responsibility to do this, but it is what it is.
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I gave up trying due to now results.
I’m with [USER=5944]@Lord Tox[/USER] here…. Slow play is the ABSOLUTE worst. Move your butts!
Especially in the summer down in the south, get a move on to get out of the heat and humidity asap
[QUOTE=”Bryndom, post: 14142285, member: 53516″]
I’m with [USER=5944]@Lord Tox[/USER] here…. Slow play is the ABSOLUTE worst. Move your butts!
Especially in the summer down in the south, get a move on to get out of the heat and humidity asap
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Yeah, slow players are hated even more during the summer than they are during the winter around here.
[QUOTE=”BigMac, post: 14142293, member: 3386″]
Yeah, slow players are hated even more during the summer than they are during the winter around here.
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I remember a couple of years ago I drove up to the group in front of me and asked if they wanted me to go buy them a dozen golf balls from the pro shop. They were looking in the desert every shot. It was 115 out. They got the hint and started to move a little better.