The Phoenix is a symbolic name for Xcaliber shafts in a few ways, first is the link to the era of legends and Arthurian stories which the brand name has heavy roots in, but the other symbolizes a return of a legend for Robin Arthur and the company. You see, the Phoenix is based upon the winningest wood shaft in professional golf, the Grafalloy ProLite, so the name is certainly apropos.
We were able to get the entire Phoenix range in for a closer look and subsequent review, read on to find out more.
The Details
This is a shaft design which does exactly what it claims to do, a lower spinning and mid launch profile which responds to an aggressive move, regardless of the shaft weight. The Phoenix is extremely affordable like the rest of the Xcaliber lineup, but also boasts a plethora of fitting options with three different weights and multiple flexes including TS for even the strongest swingers.
Xcaliber Phoenix Driver Shafts
The first thing I believe is important to understand when discussing the Phoenix is that this is quite literally the ProLite profile brought into modern times with improved production and tolerance capabilities. Those modern aspects are also what have allowed the creation of the Phoenix 4 and 5 which are just lighter weight versions. It is clear that in the opinion of Robin and company, the winningest shaft design of all time still stands the test of time.

An interesting thing to think about there is how limited the options were in the time of the ProLite with graphite really in its infancy. Nonetheless, success is success, but does it translate? To test that we were able not only to get all three weight classes of the Phoenix, but also each in their S and TS versions. They are also available in R, but we did not test those.

Upon unboxing, I took the Phoenix shafts, all six of them, right to the frequency analyzer to test them versus their stated flex. Interestingly, here the 5TS, 6S, and 6TS easily met their mark of S while the 5TS, barely hit the CPM to be considered stiff. The 4S and 4TS however were solidly in the R realm according to measurements. Is this all that surprising? In my opinion, not particularly, considering the goal here is keeping the same profile as the ProLite, just lighter, it seems natural that the lighter weights there would be a little softer to flex since they didn’t want to alter the design, just weight.

Each of the shafts were installed into Cobra adapters and built to the same length with the same grip as well. They were also all tested using the Cobra Darkspeed LS driver at standard 9.0 loft with the heavy weight back. This is a very fast and low spinning head for me, so it seemed to make the most sense when working with the Phoenix profile. The data captured can be seen below:
SHAFT | BALL SPEED | LAUNCH | SPIN | CARRY | TOTAL | HEIGHT | OFFLINE |
Xcaliber Phoenix 4S | 162 | 18 | 3208 | 269 | 286 | 42Y | 21Y R |
Xcaliber Phoenix 4TS | 162 | 17 | 2873 | 274 | 301 | 39Y | 19Y R |
Xcaliber Phoenix 5S | 160 | 16 | 2923 | 268 | 294 | 37Y | 16 Y R |
Xcaliber Phoenix 5TS | 160 | 15 | 2381 | 272 | 298 | 34Y | 10Y R |
Xcaliber Phoenix 6S | 161 | 14 | 2679 | 274 | 300 | 32Y | 7Y L |
Xcaliber Phoenix 6TS | 161 | 14 | 2358 | 274 | 303 | 30Y | 5Y R |
Foremost, I have to say how surprised I was at how easily these launched for me, not so much in the lighter weights knowing what I did via the CPM measurements, but more into the 5TS, 6S, and 7TS. Where spin was concerned, things certainly jumped in the softer flexed shafts, which was certainly in part due to my aggressive swing/move just leaving the face a bit open. That said, they responded impressively in terms of speed. The Darkspeed LS itself is a fast head for me, but the fact that the averages for every weight and flex option came out where they did ball speed wise was eye catching.

Something I do want to mention, in the collection with the Phoenix 5TS, that data is based on one recorded swing while the others are in sets of ten with two tossed from each to form the averages shown. The reason here is that shaft actually gave way in my second swing. Now, sometimes things happen, and I am not making a huge deal of this as I recorded the 5S, 4S, and 4TS after that incident and every one of them held up fine. However, for the sake of transparency, it needed to be mentioned.
The Details
Overall, the Phoenix showed me that the ProLite profile likely still has its place, and with the ability to make even lighter versions now, there seems to be a very wide fitting window. I would be curious to see if we get any heavier versions down the road from Xcaliber, however, as I feel like there is even more opportunity to broaden the window of fitting.
The Phoenix is available in R, S, and TS within each of the three weights, and is priced at a mere $135.00 per shaft. They are available at select fitters nationwide as well as direct from xcalibershafts.com.
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I’ll be putting the Ping tip on the Phoenix 5-R this afternoon, and getting it back into play this week. I’m hoping to get it to the range before the weekend, if not I’ll be going into a dew sweeper round on Saturday with it stone cold.
I played this morning, kind of a last time out with the E723 for a while (with my normal shaft in it), and back to hitting 7 of 9 fairways (78%). I’m hoping putting the G425 LST with the Phoenix 5-R in the bag for a while works out, 50% FIR or a little better would be around where I was with the G425 before I got the E723 last year.
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What about the head swap has you thinking it might work out better in the Ping?
[QUOTE=”Scooby45, post: 12528666, member: 62865″]
What about the head swap has you thinking it might work out better in the Ping?
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The shaft that works best for me in the Ping didn’t work well in the E723 either, and it’s a similar profile to the Phoenix (low launch/low spin/stiff tip), so that gives me enough hope to give it a try. Of course I’m not expecting to see much change in the feel of the Phoenix, which is still likely to be an issue for me, but maybe I’ll see better performance, so it’s definitely worth giving it a shot.
Darkspeed LS set at 10 with the 6s today was a great combo on the range.
My adapters aren’t getting here till Monday now :cautious: so I won’t have anything new till then. I might just have to spring for the local shop to put one on… Then I’ll have two extra adapters for other shafts 😉
I wanted to speak a little more about what I feel when I swing the shaft. For me, it seems really stable and doesn’t give much of a sensation of loading. But what‘s nice is that it doesn’t feel like I’m swinging a board like I’ve gotten with some HZRDUS or Tensei White shafts in the past. It always seemed like I really needed to hammer in those, whereas this not as much. It still wamts to take a bit of a move, which makes sense given how it’s marketed for those with a quick tempo and transition.
Even without the sense of much load, for me, I still have a sense of where the club head is. It might be because I tend to prefer shafts with that kind of sensation. For example, when I was testing a LINQ Blue, that sense of bending in what to me felt like the middle of the shaft did not work. I would struggle with timing and loose shots right.
If anyone has questions or is looking for clarity, fire away.
[QUOTE=”ddec, post: 12531240, member: 782″]
Darkspeed LS set at 10 with the 6s today was a great combo on the range.
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That sounds like low bullet bombs
[QUOTE=”Scooby45, post: 12531251, member: 62865″]
That sounds like low bullet bombs
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[USER=782]@ddec[/USER] only hits bullets on 1 at Ballyhack.
[QUOTE=”Scooby45, post: 12531250, member: 62865″]
I wanted to speak a little more about what I feel when I swing the shaft. For me, it seems really stable and doesn’t give much of a sensation of loading. But what‘s nice is that it doesn’t feel like I’m swinging a board like I’ve gotten with some HZRDUS or Tensei White shafts in the past. It always seemed like I really needed to hammer in those, whereas this not as much. It still wamts to take a bit of a move, which makes sense given how it’s marketed for those with a quick tempo and transition.
Even without the sense of much load, for me, I still have a sense of where the club head is. It might be because I tend to prefer shafts with that kind of sensation. For example, when I was testing a LINQ Blue, that sense of bending in what to me felt like the middle of the shaft did not work. I would struggle with timing and loose shots right.
If anyone has questions or is looking for clarity, fire away.
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That actually makes perfect sense to me (your comparison to a mid-bend shaft). Some people love that feel, but it’s really not for everybody.
You know what this is making think of? The Fujikura Fuel for some reason. Maybe that’s way off base.
[QUOTE=”Hawk, post: 12532076, member: 1193″]
That actually makes perfect sense to me (your comparison to a mid-bend shaft). Some people love that feel, but it’s really not for everybody.
You know what this is making think of? The Fujikura Fuel for some reason. Maybe that’s way off base.
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I’ve never gamed that one so unfortunately wouldn’t know. Maybe someone else can speak to that who is a tester
I got out to the range today with the Phoenix 5-R in my G425 LST. Readers Digest version, it works better in the G425 than in the E723, but not nearly as good as my regular shaft for that driver. Feel is still the same, but my misses didn’t seem to be as all over the face.
Now for a little more detail. I started out with my normal shaft in the G425, a Tensei 1K Pro White 60-R, since I haven’t hit with this driver in some time. Got a good sense of the feel of that shaft, which I do like, and was hitting dead straight bullets, fairly low launch and trajectory, and if they moved at all it was ever so slightly right. Plugged in the Phoenix and it was back to that vague feel, inconsistent contact, although better than with the E723, higher launch and ball flight, and depending on the contact they were either straight or a fair bit of fade. Distance is hard to judge at this range, hitting into a hill with not the newest range balls, and with the Phoenix it seemed to vary quite a bit with my inconsistent contact, but on the really well struck shots it was probably a little shorter than with the Tensei.
The Tensei is a pretty stiff low launch/low spin profile, but if I remember right they softened up the mid section just a bit to provide more feel without sacrificing stability, and of course with all the high end materials they say they use in these high dollar shafts, it does seem to work well. Of course there is also the fact that the Tensei is a good 10 grams heavier than the Phoenix, so that could be a factor too. Until just the last couple of years I really struggled with shafts lighter than the 60 gram class, so maybe the Phoenix’s old school profile is bringing some of that back.
On the bright side the Phoenix did seem to work better in the G425 than in the E723, and it was enough better that I’ll definitely be using it for my next round Saturday morning.
I’m a little late to the game here I was laid up sick all week.
In the original review of the shaft the thing that stood out to me the most was the phoenix shaft was offered in a TX flex in a 45g class shaft. Conceptually I’ve been curious about trying a super lightweight driver shaft for a while. The shaft choices for reasonably stiff and super lightweight were few and far between. So when the time to choose a weight and flex to test I decided to go as light and stiff as possible and picked the 4-tx.
Hand flexing the shaft the tip and handle sections are both very stiff and the middle is the only part of the shaft that wants to bend. There is no doubt that this is a shaft built to flex in the middle. With modern shafts that’s a fairly unique profile and like nothing else in my bag.
When swinging the shaft feels connected and vague at the same time. Yeah it’s hard to explain. I don’t have a strong feeling of the shaft loading and unloading. My tempo is smooth so someone with a more abrupt transition might get more of those sensations. Even without the loading feeling I don’t feel like I lose the feel of where the clubhead is during the swing. At first this was a very weird sensation. With everything in life the more you do something enough you will eventually get comfortable doing it. I’m also wondering if this is a shaft that needs to be broken in a bit to loosen up the feels a bit. I don’t think this shaft is aiming for the HZRDUS telephone pole meets 2×4 feel. As someone who doesn’t get along with the hzrdus I don’t think that’s a bad thing.
In this shaft test I also decided to see what happens if I drop 20g from the shaft. Compared with the tensei av blue 65 I was fit into the club feels lighter. My swing weight scale had me dropping 2 swing weight points. Being tall and playing +1/2” irons I generally like a heavier feeling club. I have a history of not getting along with drivers that feel too light (I’m looking at you every titanium driver Callaway made in the 1990’s). Putting my driver on this diet doesn’t seem to bother me this time. Some of that is having the good fortune of my driver still being a D3 with the lighter shaft in it. Another tester had theirs drop 3.5 points which could have been a problem for me. Some of what’s working is I probably desensitized myself with some speed training earlier this year and doing a few bonus all out swings at the end of each session with a super speed C (counter balance) club. The C club is the green lightest weight stick with a weight to further lower the swing weight.
The round I played on Sunday I was a bit all over the place with the driver. There were a lot of really good swings that didn’t work out. It’s a course I have played before it’s not a course I have played enough to say I actually know it well. It’s a course with a lot of holes where if you can cut enough of the corner on the dogleg you can make the hole play very short. So the round quickly devolved into me playing “yolo driver” which is just me taking aggressive lines off the tee and on a lot of swings just over doing it.
Going forward I’m very much into the idea of sticking to lighter weight shafts while not substantially reducing the swing weight. For driver specifically the sub ~55g X flex there are currently not a lot of contenders. At some point in the future I would like to test it head to head with the new Blue & White Board to see how
Another range session this morning. Instead of comparing, I simply brought the Phoenix. Started to get into a bit of a groove with it. Ballflight seems to be settling into a mid-low window to my eye. Occasionally I’ll get a high launcher type flight, but thats my delivery inconsistency.
Im still enjoying the feel of this. I don’t feel it load much at all which works pretty well for me.
Hoping to slip out this evening for a few holes to get it on course.
Man I really liked what I was seeing out of the 6s while at Ballyhack. Hit some really good drives with that Darkspeed LS combo. Clearly should have had it in the bag for more of the rounds because it was hands down the winning head/shaft combo of the week vs GT2 and AI Smoke Max.
Anyone feeling more left-bias, more right-bias, or pretty neutral/straight?
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Anyone feeling more left-bias, more right-bias, or pretty neutral/straight?
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Is low bias an option? I’m course right now and it get wants to stay low. Working great right now, if I’m honest, with late afternoon winds and a baked out hard track, but it doesn’t want to sail for me.
Seems to be fairly straight biased for me though if I had to answer your question.
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Anyone feeling more left-bias, more right-bias, or pretty neutral/straight?
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At least for me where the heavy weight is in the head has a pretty big influence on if the club wants to fade or draw. Heavy weight back the club wants to fade more. Move the weight forward and it wants to go straight or draw a bit.
Played 18 with the G425 LST/Phoenix 5-R combo yesterday, and it wasn’t pretty. Feel is pretty much the same as it was in the E723, ball flight is higher in the G425, closer to mid than the mid-low in the E723, and the misses were consistently right. I hit 3 of 9 fairways, and of the six misses one was in a hazard, and three of them were about as lucky as it gets, within inches of being in hazards, and completely unexpected to actually be somewhat playable. Consistency was a good bit better than what I was seeing in the E723, at least with the G425 my misses were all to the right, with a consistent mid ball flight. Unfortunately the misses were still big misses, and the 33% FIR is half or less than what I would normally see.
I was in the first group out in the morning, and by the time we were getting through the back nine there was no one behind us, so on the last couple of holes I quickly swapped shafts out to hit second tee shots with my normal shaft with that driver, feel is night and day, and although I still hit a bit more right with it than I would with my E723, I put the ball in the fairway on both holes (missed both with the Phoenix).
I’ll give it another go one afternoon this week, maybe on a more driver friendly course.
I think it’s time to loft up. I’ve been leaving it at the setting I’ve been in (+1 N on a 10.5 Paradym X head) to keep that variable consistent to see how this plays. I’ve been engaged with it enough now to feel pretty confident that it is too low of a ballflight for me to be functional long term.
[QUOTE=”Scooby45, post: 12538567, member: 62865″]
I think it’s time to loft up. I’ve been leaving it at the setting I’ve been in (+1 N on a 10.5 Paradym X head) to keep that variable consistent to see how this plays. I’ve been engaged with it enough now to feel pretty confident that it is too low of a ballflight for me to be functional long term.
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How low are we talking?
[QUOTE=”Hawk, post: 12539139, member: 1193″]
How low are we talking?
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If I had to guess, feels like I’m living on course in the ballpark 35-40’ range? So not a straight wormburner, but hurting my carry.
[QUOTE=”Scooby45, post: 12539147, member: 62865″]
If I had to guess, feels like I’m living on course in the ballpark 35-40’ range? So not a straight wormburner, but hurting my carry.
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Oh yea. That’s pretty dang low.
[QUOTE=”Hawk, post: 12539148, member: 1193″]
Oh yea. That’s pretty dang low.
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Might be pushing 50? All I know of there are some trees lining the fairway that it looks like I clearly climb past on course, and I’m not climbing to that point with this at the moment. (Well, unless I hit that high, spinny, fade/slice off to the right but that’s completely on me.)
[QUOTE=”Scooby45, post: 12539155, member: 62865″]
Might be pushing 50? All I know of there are some trees lining the fairway that it looks like I clearly climb past on course, and I’m not climbing to that point with this at the moment. (Well, unless I hit that high, spinny, fade/slice off to the right but that’s completely on me.)
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I’d imagine you probably have some pretty solid control at that height, but I do agree you wan to see the ball up in the air more.
[QUOTE=”Scooby45, post: 12539147, member: 62865″]
If I had to guess, feels like I’m living on course in the ballpark 35-40’ range? So not a straight wormburner, but hurting my carry.
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no such thing as “Ohio roll”?
Getting some now in the dog days of summer but once the leaves start turning I’ll want to be a bit higher.
Given the great price point on these I’ve wondered if going lighter in weight and or flex could help. It feels firm enough to where even though I’ve historically been in a stiff shaft most times, I could likely get on with a R just fine.
[QUOTE=”Scooby45, post: 12539407, member: 62865″]
Getting some now in the dog days of summer but once the leaves start turning I’ll want to be a bit higher.
Given the great price point on these I’ve wondered if going lighter in weight and or flex could help. It feels firm enough to where even though I’ve historically been in a stiff shaft most times, I could likely get on with a R just fine.
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I have gotten along well with the super lightweight shaft and I think a lot of it comes down to it still being stiff enough to go after it.
Kinetixx Ballistic the green, Phoenix the black; seem pretty similar to me, given on course sample size, maybe giving up a little distance with the Phoenix.
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Kinetixx Hypersonic in the blue, Phoenix in the black; to me it shows that when I can time the Kinetixx, I can get in a groove but when I miss, I miss with that fairway distance miss. Removing the sense of kick in the Phoenix helps bring in the dispersion circle, for me.
got out again this weekend. Had a rough start to the round but finished pretty strong. More of the same from the Phoenix 6S. Incredibly stable through the swing and impressive launch for how little it feels like the shaft moves. I am really loving this in the Aerojet Max. I still think it is launching and going higher than what I envision mid to be, but I’ve been seeing a lot higher ball flight than I have been used to since i started playing the Aerojet. I also know my poor face at impact is likely causing some of it as well. Even with that, I’m seeing an impressive ball flight and solid distance in round with this combo. I’ve never been the longest in any group I played, but I’m having more times than ever that I’m the longest drive, which is pretty cool.
I still struggle with how to explain the feel of the shaft. It is so interesting to me, but I could definitely see people not loving it or downright hating the lack of feeling load or release. For me, I just love how connected I feel and how little movement I feel but still get good energy transfer to the ball at impact.
[QUOTE=”baylrballa, post: 12538483, member: 52381″]
Anyone feeling more left-bias, more right-bias, or pretty neutral/straight?
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I feel like I tend to hook it right (again me a lefty) far more than having it go left. Usually when it’s left, I’ve just blocked myself out and start it left and stays left more than it sliding off to the left. Now and then though, I can get a pretty good right to left move on it along with the block that is not pretty.
Going to get out on the sim again this week and try to get a larger data set of numbers. Having fun with this in round and I’ve been doing pretty good (for me) score wise with it the last few rounds.
[QUOTE=”checkered, post: 12540834, member: 5710″]
got out again this weekend. Had a rough start to the round but finished pretty strong. More of the same from the Phoenix 6S. Incredibly stable through the swing and impressive launch for how little it feels like the shaft moves. I am really loving this in the Aerojet Max. I still think it is launching and going higher than what I envision mid to be, but I’ve been seeing a lot higher ball flight than I have been used to since i started playing the Aerojet. I also know my poor face at impact is likely causing some of it as well. Even with that, I’m seeing an impressive ball flight and solid distance in round with this combo. I’ve never been the longest in any group I played, but I’m having more times than ever that I’m the longest drive, which is pretty cool.
I still struggle with how to explain the feel of the shaft. It is so interesting to me, but I could definitely see people not loving it or downright hating the lack of feeling load or release. For me, I just love how connected I feel and how little movement I feel but still get good energy transfer to the ball at impact.
I feel like I tend to hook it right (again me a lefty) far more than having it go left. Usually when it’s left, I’ve just blocked myself out and start it left and stays left more than it sliding off to the left. Now and then though, I can get a pretty good right to left move on it along with the block that is not pretty.
Going to get out on the sim again this week and try to get a larger data set of numbers. Having fun with this in round and I’ve been doing pretty good (for me) score wise with it the last few rounds.
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What shaft are you coming from again?
[QUOTE=”Scooby45, post: 12540884, member: 62865″]
What shaft are you coming from again?
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Had an old Mitsubishi Diamana s+. Have used the Kai’Li Blue and Hzrdus Black in this head too. Liking the Phoenix best of them.
[QUOTE=”Scooby45, post: 12540126, member: 62865″]
Kinetixx Ballistic the green, Phoenix the black; seem pretty similar to me, given on course sample size, maybe giving up a little distance with the Phoenix.
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Kinetixx Hypersonic in the blue, Phoenix in the black; to me it shows that when can time the Kinetixx, I can get in a groove but when I miss, I miss with that fairway distance miss. Removing the sense of kick in the Phoenix helps bring in the dispersion circle, for me.
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Are these from different time frames? I know that can have an impact for me since I’m streaky.
Hard to really make any concrete decisions from that info, though I will say that 46% fairways hit is pretty enticing.
[QUOTE=”Hawk, post: 12540976, member: 1193″]
Are these from different time frames? I know that can have an impact for me since I’m streaky.
Hard to really make any concrete decisions from that info, though I will say that 46% fairways hit is pretty enticing.
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Not really as they were from my last 15 rounds. That stretches back to May of this year. I’m streaky as well, but more of a round to round I don’t know what I’m gonna get kinda streaky, not a month on, month off kinda streaky.
And agree, too small a sample size with the Pheonix to really make a call. The 46% is nice, but the a lot of the misses are added shot type of misses.
Haven’t posted much since I’ve had to wait to get the adapter installed so here we are… This weekend, I can see how it does in the ST230 Max… Looking forward to seeing what’s what.
[QUOTE=”chile, post: 12544702, member: 54997″]
Haven’t posted much since I’ve had to wait to get the adapter installed so here we are… This weekend, I can see how it does in the ST230 Max… Looking forward to seeing what’s what.
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What are you hoping to see? Or maybe what might you hope to change from the current set-up in the ST230? What shaft did you currently have in there?
Should I try a 4-TS in my C723?
I think I should
Minor outing with the Phoenix 5-R today, paired with the G425 LST I carried it as a second driver, it wasn’t in play, but when I could I hit a second ball off the tee to see how it did head-to-head with my regular gamer. With the E723/UST LIN-Q Red combo I hit 9 of 12 fairways, I was only able to hit the G425/Phoenix combo on five holes and hit 1 of 5 fairways with it, and all of the misses were way right. Looking at the bright side, it was consistent, every shot went right, some full-on slices, some push-fades.
I got to thinking I might be able to do a little better with the Phoenix by adjusting my setup, maybe moving the ball forward in my stance a bit more. I can’t feel this shaft load or release, and maybe it’s releasing later in my swing than normal. I’ve never been one to change what I do to fit a piece of equipment though, I might try something like that on the range just to satisfy my curiosity, but my normal setup and swing works really well for me with my regular gamer, so no way I’m changing it to hit this particular shaft better.
[QUOTE=”OldeDude, post: 12544762, member: 49557″]
Minor outing with the Phoenix 5-R today, paired with the G425 LST I carried it as a second driver, it wasn’t in play, but when I could I hit a second ball off the tee to see how it did head-to-head with my regular gamer. With the E723/UST LIN-Q Red combo I hit 9 of 12 fairways, I was only able to hit the G425/Phoenix combo on five holes and hit 1 of 5 fairways with it, and all of the misses were way right. Looking at the bright side, it was consistent, every shot went right, some full-on slices, some push-fades.
I got to thinking I might be able to do a little better with the Phoenix by adjusting my setup, maybe moving the ball forward in my stance a bit more. I can’t feel this shaft load or release, and maybe it’s releasing later in my swing than normal. I’ve never been one to change what I do to fit a piece of equipment though, I might try something like that on the range just to satisfy my curiosity, but my normal setup and swing works really well for me with my regular gamer, so no way I’m changing it to hit this particular shaft better.
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Can you adjust that head to compensate for the right miss at all?
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Should I try a 4-TS in my C723?
I think I should
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Do it for the people.
[QUOTE=”Scooby45, post: 12544727, member: 62865″]
What are you hoping to see? Or maybe what might you hope to change from the current set-up in the ST230? What shaft did you currently have in there?
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Honestly, I don’t know. I’ll know when I see/feel it. I think the Kaili Blue in it is okay… But I don’t know.
I would have interest in trying the Xcaliber shafts, except for the horrible experience I had last year trying to get 4 rapid taper shafts actually delivered. After 4 months and having to go through credit dispute to get my money back, I would say I’m less than enthusiastic on giving them another go. Still have a partial set of Rapid Tapers sitting on the shelf, and they likely will stay there.
[QUOTE=”Hawk, post: 12544927, member: 1193″]
Can you adjust that head to compensate for the right miss at all?
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I already have the sliding weight in the “draw” position, and some drivers you can rotate the shaft to the “Upright” position for a little more help, but Ping has “Neutral” or “Flat”, so the “Neutral” or standard position is all you can do there.
[QUOTE=”OldeDude, post: 12545214, member: 49557″]
I already have the sliding weight in the “draw” position, and some drivers you can rotate the shaft to the “Upright” position for a little more help, but Ping has “Neutral” or “Flat”, so the “Neutral” or standard position is all you can do there.
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Thanks – I couldn’t recall off the top of my head.
Hit the range. Ball flight is lower but not too low. I have an align grip so adjusting to one up will give me a weird grip… Definitely good with the feel of it during the swing.
[QUOTE=”chile, post: 12546083, member: 54997″]
Hit the range. Ball flight is lower but not too low. I have an align grip so adjusting to one up will give me a weird grip… Definitely good with the feel of it during the swing.
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Do you think this shaft is one you could see yourself using long term?
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Do you think this shaft is one you could see yourself using long term?
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Definitely. Once I got loosened up, I was getting a little more height on my drives. And a few times, I could’ve sworn I could really feel the flex… Those just happened to coincide with great drives that got up and gave me that fade I like. But I can also pull hook like nobody’s business so there’s that…
[QUOTE=”chile, post: 12546472, member: 54997″]
Definitely. Once I got loosened up, I was getting a little more height on my drives. And a few times, I could’ve sworn I could really feel the flex… Those just happened to coincide with great drives that got up and gave me that fade I like. But I can also pull hook like nobody’s business so there’s that…
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I hear that lol.
Ran out of epoxy, will have to get some tomorrow to put the all-fit adapter on the 4 & 6-TS shafts before trying at the range Saturday morning
I’ve been taking swings out back each day and feel like I am getting more and more comfortable with the Phoenix 6S shaft. The pairing with my Aerojet Max seems to work well and continues to feel good for me. It is still a bit perplexing how it feels through the swing, but I’m rolling with it and enjoying every shot. On average, during my rounds it doesn’t seem like distance is any further than what I’ve been getting previously, but dispersion seems better and now and then I get one I get through better that goes quite a bit further. I’ve just got to find consistency in my swing to get those more often.
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I’ve been taking swings out back each day and feel like I am getting more and more comfortable with the Phoenix 6S shaft. The pairing with my Aerojet Max seems to work well and continues to feel good for me. It is still a bit perplexing how it feels through the swing, but I’m rolling with it and enjoying every shot. On average, during my rounds it doesn’t seem like distance is any further than what I’ve been getting previously, but dispersion seems better and now and then I get one I get through better that goes quite a bit further. [B]I’ve just got to find consistency in my swing to get those more often.[/B]
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Let me know if you find it.