I didn't mean to imply you were knocking them. If I drove a new BMW but I got to test all sorts of new cars as they came out I might never have a keeperI know that plays a role, not my point though. I'm amazed that these really do deliver on the claims, for me at least, that TM has made....and they do so quite well actually. I like them, I enjoy playing with them, I'm just curious thinking about the future with them personally. Its not a knock on the irons at all really.