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I would more than likely go nickel. Might get a chance in the next few days to get my hands on them.What is everyone’s preferred finish now that many have been able to see them? My fitter said that the nickel finish has been the most popular with his customers.
I think you’ll like the M when you get them in the right lofts.Somehow, I left my lob wedge at the indoor practice facility I frequent and had no lob wedge when I was on the course. @GolfFest let me use his Vokeys. I can confirm that the T grind does not work for me at all, but the M grind was wonderful. I am glad that I was fit into two M grinds for the Vokey experience.
Thank you for taking the time to read my dude!I'll start off by saying awesome review @Jman. I am late in reading it, but I found in my fitting yesterday the same that you did regarding progressive CG to flatten things, and class leading spin. Read on, dear friends...
I set up a fitting at my usual facility (Sittler Golf in Sinking Spring, PA) with Michael Parker from the Titleist Fit Crew. I said back tail end of last year that I would get fitted when the SM10 came out, and combine that promise with some recent wedge struggles and enough rounds under the belt this year, I felt the time was right to make it happen. We did it yesterday and I'm really pleased with the results.
TL;DR: I ended up fitting into and purchasing SM10's in the nickel finish in 52-12F and 58-14K (bent 1* strong) configurations, both bent 1* flat, with KBS Tour Stiff shafts and Lamkin Crossline Cord grips. I'm coming from SM9's chrome in 52-12F and 56-10S with stock DG shafts.
We started with a quick review of my game, setup and goals. I shared that I don't currently feel I'm a great wedge player, and that I try to keep the ball on the ground whenever possible (putting, rolling chips or low punch pitches). I also shared that I am not currently carrying a lob wedge and don't feel like I need it in my game, as I don't like to full swing sub sand wedge so I don't need the gapping down there, and I have a tendency to catch wedges fat and/or not hit them confidently so I often leave the lob wedge well short. I also like having the TSR2+ in there as another tee option / for additional gas on attacking par 5's. So our initial thought was to go in assuming a 52/56 setup and adjust from there.
He had me hit a few full, pitch and open face pitch shots with my clubs, then the same with the SM10's he was baselining, with stock setups. This established my delivery on these type of shots, which is neutral to slightly shallow, tending slightly shallower on the pitches than on the full shots. The fit tool recommended the 52-56 setup with 12F bounce/grind - we were seeing good distance gapping and launch angles, lower than my SM9's which was great - and then we headed out to the pitching and sand area to confirm some things.
I hit a few full shots off the grass where he confirmed that a higher bounce option is ideal for those shots, combating my tendency to get them high on the face at times. Then over to the pitching and sand area. We hit some open face pitches over a bunker with the 56 which was working out well, but I tended to fat them a bit as a miss then overcompensate with a thinny. He then handed me the 58-14K to see what happened and I was clipping it PERFECTLY. Crisp with plenty of spin on those open face shots.
In the bunker, he gave me a little mini-lesson first as I had shared I have very low confidence in the bunkers. I'll share more on that in another thread, but it really helped. Cut to the wedges, I started with the 56-12F and it was better than my wedge but I still had a tendency to dig it and not swing hard enough due to low confidence. He handed me the 58-14K and it was night and day. Everything was at least coming out of the trap, and I hit several truly good bunker shots. It's been a while since I could say that. He said the K grind is supposed to be the "ultimate sand wedge" and I can see why.
Lastly, we went back inside to the launch monitor to try one more thing. He plugged the KBS Tour in my irons into the 52* wedge and had me hit it. It worked beautifully - contact was better, spin was better and the weight blended much better with my irons. He also liked the idea of a slightly lighter weight for bunker shots, as it might encourage me to put a little more speed through the ball as that's my biggest issue. Lastly we just settled on grips, finish and details and we were all set.
So in a couple weeks, I'll have a new wedge setup in hand! Michael was a great fitter and this wedge fitting really dove in deep to how I actually use wedges, turf conditions, and my strengths and shortcomings to arrive at a good setup. Highly recommend Titleist's wedge fitting to anyone who wants to really dial in their setup. I'm sure I'll have more to report once I get them in hand as to how it's working out in practice, but I'm optimistic.
No problem and thank YOU! I am very excited to get them in play - despite being fitted for many woods and irons, this is the first time I've been fitted for wedges. It was well past time to get the right setup for my game, I'm hoping this is it!Thank you for taking the time to read my dude!
Also, that’s some GREAT info and breakdown! Look forward to how your new setup will work out for you!
The outdoor fitting sounds great and I hope to get one when I am looking to get new wedges. Being fit into high bounce when your swing is shallow is interesting, but that would be the benefit of the outdoor fitting. Can't wait to hear how they perform!I'll start off by saying awesome review @Jman. I am late in reading it, but I found in my fitting yesterday the same that you did regarding progressive CG to flatten things, and class leading spin. Read on, dear friends...
I set up a fitting at my usual facility (Sittler Golf in Sinking Spring, PA) with Michael Parker from the Titleist Fit Crew. I said back tail end of last year that I would get fitted when the SM10 came out, and combine that promise with some recent wedge struggles and enough rounds under the belt this year, I felt the time was right to make it happen. We did it yesterday and I'm really pleased with the results.
TL;DR: I ended up fitting into and purchasing SM10's in the nickel finish in 52-12F and 58-14K (bent 1* strong) configurations, both bent 1* flat, with KBS Tour Stiff shafts and Lamkin Crossline Cord grips. I'm coming from SM9's chrome in 52-12F and 56-10S with stock DG shafts.
We started with a quick review of my game, setup and goals. I shared that I don't currently feel I'm a great wedge player, and that I try to keep the ball on the ground whenever possible (putting, rolling chips or low punch pitches). I also shared that I am not currently carrying a lob wedge and don't feel like I need it in my game, as I don't like to full swing sub sand wedge so I don't need the gapping down there, and I have a tendency to catch wedges fat and/or not hit them confidently so I often leave the lob wedge well short. I also like having the TSR2+ in there as another tee option / for additional gas on attacking par 5's. So our initial thought was to go in assuming a 52/56 setup and adjust from there.
He had me hit a few full, pitch and open face pitch shots with my clubs, then the same with the SM10's he was baselining, with stock setups. This established my delivery on these type of shots, which is neutral to slightly shallow, tending slightly shallower on the pitches than on the full shots. The fit tool recommended the 52-56 setup with 12F bounce/grind - we were seeing good distance gapping and launch angles, lower than my SM9's which was great - and then we headed out to the pitching and sand area to confirm some things.
I hit a few full shots off the grass where he confirmed that a higher bounce option is ideal for those shots, combating my tendency to get them high on the face at times. Then over to the pitching and sand area. We hit some open face pitches over a bunker with the 56 which was working out well, but I tended to fat them a bit as a miss then overcompensate with a thinny. He then handed me the 58-14K to see what happened and I was clipping it PERFECTLY. Crisp with plenty of spin on those open face shots.
In the bunker, he gave me a little mini-lesson first as I had shared I have very low confidence in the bunkers. I'll share more on that in another thread, but it really helped. Cut to the wedges, I started with the 56-12F and it was better than my wedge but I still had a tendency to dig it and not swing hard enough due to low confidence. He handed me the 58-14K and it was night and day. Everything was at least coming out of the trap, and I hit several truly good bunker shots. It's been a while since I could say that. He said the K grind is supposed to be the "ultimate sand wedge" and I can see why.
Lastly, we went back inside to the launch monitor to try one more thing. He plugged the KBS Tour in my irons into the 52* wedge and had me hit it. It worked beautifully - contact was better, spin was better and the weight blended much better with my irons. He also liked the idea of a slightly lighter weight for bunker shots, as it might encourage me to put a little more speed through the ball as that's my biggest issue. Lastly we just settled on grips, finish and details and we were all set.
So in a couple weeks, I'll have a new wedge setup in hand! Michael was a great fitter and this wedge fitting really dove in deep to how I actually use wedges, turf conditions, and my strengths and shortcomings to arrive at a good setup. Highly recommend Titleist's wedge fitting to anyone who wants to really dial in their setup. I'm sure I'll have more to report once I get them in hand as to how it's working out in practice, but I'm optimistic.
I think that one is a hard call. I would say that if you want to manipulate your wedge to manufacture shots, go with the M grind otherwise, go with the S grind.54° and 58° I am between the S and M grinds. What you guys opinions on the two.
It was definitely interesting to me as well, but the results definitely spoke for themselves. I did state that I most often play in softer turf and bunker conditions, so I'm sure that influenced what he chose.The outdoor fitting sounds great and I hope to get one when I am looking to get new wedges. Being fit into high bounce when your swing is shallow is interesting, but that would be the benefit of the outdoor fitting. Can't wait to hear how they perform!
That’s what my fitter told me also but since I tend to hit shots mainly with a square face he suggest the S grind.I think that one is a hard call. I would say that if you want to manipulate your wedge to manufacture shots, go with the M grind otherwise, go with the S grind.
May go 54° S and 58° MI think that one is a hard call. I would say that if you want to manipulate your wedge to manufacture shots, go with the M grind otherwise, go with the S grind.
I think that could be real solid. That is actually what I thought I would be fit into.May go 54° S and 58° M
Appreciate the insight!As a quick background, I have been playing Callaway Wedges for about the last 10 years (MD2, then MD3, and most recently MD4). I have a preference for darker wedge finishes, and playing in Bermuda grass I have gravitated toward higher bounce offerings in a 50, 54, and 58 combination. In my game, the 50 and 54 degree wedges were predominantly used for full shots only, and pretty much the 58 was used around the green or out of sand, and rarely for anything more than say a mid range pitch. That said, I had never been fit nor had really considered being fit for wedges before, although I have been fit here in there for the other clubs in my bag.
I have obviously been aware of Vokey wedges and the impressive performance they have given users for quite some time, but other than a 60 degree out of a used bin many years back (pre Spin Milled I believe), I have not played them myself.
I guess other than that, for people I have not encountered, I have been around THP a longer time, but have not played many rounds of golf in the past 5 years or so due to work obligations (just a few rounds per year, leading to an improved SIX rounds last year ). I typically shoot in the 95 range these days, consider myself decent (for that score level) with a wedge and driver is my biggest problem area.
Ok, with all that said, below is my fitting experience with the SM10 Vokey Wedges...from April 1st, 2024:
Just got back from traveling to my fitting up in Knoxville at Willow Creek Golf Club. Titleist fitter Trey Roy was on site there today for some public fittings of various Titleist lines using a Trackman to accumulate data to help with the fitting analysis. We were set up at the end of their driving range with access to a nice little chipping green with some various slopes.
While he let me warm up for a few minutes, he looked at my current clubs to get an idea of what irons, shafts, and lofts I was trying to tie into as well as how I currently have my wedges setup, and we talked a bit about how I traditionally use each one. He them had me hit my current PW and my 50 and 54 wedges so he could confirm my gapping in the clubs I use for full swings. I was glad to see him getting the numbers on Trackman that match what I expect to see on those as a baseline.
I told him I was just going to hit what he handed me shaft and grind wise and trust the process...that my only real preferences were that I wanted to get the Nickel finish and preferred to have a 58 as the highest lofted wedge. With that, he started handing me clubs for full swings to start getting a picture of my swing and what it needed.
For reference, I had stock shafts in my MD4 wedges, and have been fitted twice to the KBS Tour V Regular flex - 105 grams which I use in my irons. He tried me in a couple different shafts and we quickly landed on the True Temper Dynamic Gold 105 in the R300 flex as the best option which was giving me a really nice flight just felt great.
We then moved over to the chipping green and he had me hit a few with my existing wedges and then with about 4-5 different Vokeys so he could see those movements and what kind of grind would work best for me...we did this from a couple different angles with an uphill shot then a level one. From these, I could tell that the sound and spin off these Vokeys was going to be a nice improvement off my MD4s.
Finally, he came up with a combination of lofts and grinds the though would suit me best and had me hit a couple 54s and a couple 58s to a target about 30 yards away. Main takeaway from the swing observations was that he was pleased with the neutral delivery of the club head into the ball and fit me into the below (all 1 deg upright and +0.25 in length).
SM10 Nickel - 50.12 F Grind bent to 49 degrees for better gapping to PW
SM10 Nickel - 54.12 D Grind
SM10 Nickel - 58.08 M Grind
As a comparison, the online tool suggested 48.10 F, 54.12 D, and 58.14 K based on my answers...I'm apparently not as much of a digger as I led the online tool to believe
We got the order entered with my normal Midsize Winn Dry Tac grips and he sent the information over to Jacquelyn. We didn't talk about personalization options like stamping (which I'm kind of ambivalent about).
Overall, I was with Trey for right at an hour, and it was clear he was very observant and knowledgeable about the Vokey lineup. We talked about the event, and he was amazed at the opportunity that was being presented to us. He remembered working with a THPer for in the past for a Titleist Driver or FW event. I really enjoyed this part of the process and can't wait to get the final setups in hand at Ballyhack...I think they are going to be outstanding replacements for my current wedges and provide me more options around the green than I feel I have currently.
SM10 Nickel - 50.12 F Grind bent to 49 degrees for better gapping to PW
SM10 Nickel - 54.12 D Grind
SM10 Nickel - 58.08 M Grind
As a comparison, the online tool suggested 48.10 F, 54.12 D, and 58.14 K based on my answers...I'm apparently not as much of a digger as I led the online tool to believe