ntanygd760
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Not sure about handicaps but it is much easier to hit a ball farther and straighter than it used to be. Not sure how you can debate otherwise.
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Not sure about handicaps but it is much easier to hit a ball farther and straighter than it used to be. Not sure how you can debate otherwise.
Trouble with most modern clubs is that they remove feel and it is by feel that we play the game.
Yep I remember I got a hold of a few dozen Taylor Made's new two piece ball when they were selling intergel's still and it went miles straighter and had no idea why. Looking back it makes sense.Much easier. Thin shots with my driver that once were lucky to go 190 yards are now traveling 250+.
I also believe that swinging a golf club consistently at 100 mph while accounting for lie, turf, and wind adjustments while not letting your brain get in the way is damn hard and many don't posess the God given coordination and/or brain chemistry to be a single digit index. I see lots of guys each week at my club that work very, very hard and never get much better.
Yep, got a couple toasters on a stick sitting in my garage and my '69 Macs have new Rifle 6.5 shafts in them.
Trouble with most modern clubs is that they remove feel and it is by feel that we play the game.
USGA stats show handicaps have dropped very little. Our course record was set in 1968 and the course has not changed at all.
Have you improved and had your handicap lowered due to using the old equipment? Not trying to bash you, but that's the topic at hand. When I upgraded my clubs from 1980's/90's pinnacles, my scoring improved dramatically from 110+ to high 80's in a matter of less than 2 seasons. Part of it was playing more, but part of it was also the fact that my launch and trajectory improved a ridiculous amount.
Now going from something around the mid 2000's to now are you going to see a huge upgrade? Depends on the type of clubs...but I've used clubs from the 70's, 80's, and 90's and I can tell you that without a single shred of doubt the recent equipment out is leaps and bounds better. If you don't want to believe it, that's up to you, but to say it isn't just isn't true.
Not sure about handicaps but it is much easier to hit a ball farther and straighter than it used to be. Not sure how you can debate otherwise.
So it's your belief that golf clubs help hit the ball straighter?
They do. Ball can only spin on one axis is something that gets forgotten quite a bit.
So it's your belief that golf clubs help hit the ball straighter?
So if I give a slicer that plays an older club a new club with modern tech, they'll hit it straighter?
If you were to give them a club and ball that spin less off the tee, and they hit the two the exact same way, it will spin less. And since it can only spin one direction, the answer is very possibly. If it didnt matter, fitting wouldnt matter. Shafts wouldnt matter, and frankly loft wouldnt matter (as it pertains to fitting).
Why? Because as you can see on the internet, spin is one of the most talked about aspects of this. Since we know that spin can not only assist ball flight but determine it, distance, launch, etc, we also know it can be limited and increased.
I was wondering how you were going to explain this and you did. I agree in theory but if you had the same swing, same loft, low vs high spin. The ball you still alive just at a lower launch. Right?
I'm starting to wonder where my limit is, because I haven't gotten to single digits after 3+ seasons of trying my ass off and floating around the 13-15 range. Not gonna stop trying though, damnit!
Accurate on the rating. Don't worry man, I'm not giving up, just frustrating sometimes when I dump shots off the tee and then re tee and hit a perfect shot lolDon't give up brother! When you hit your stride mid-season you shoot low 80s and make it look effortless. I will also add that the bogus (low) rating/slope of your home course is going to make your goals extremely difficult.
I need the course management for sure. I'm usually pretty good but once I start sucking I sometimes get to an "F it" place and try really dumb sh** hahaYep don't give up. While I don't think anyone can be a scratch golfer I firmly believe anyone who puts in the time can be single digits. You just need to find what works for you or a teacher that teaches you in a new way and mix in a bit of course management and you can get there.