How can some states have such cheap memberships?

It always surprises me when I see golf courses charging either much less or much more than the prevailing market rates.

The Covid Pandemic definitely fueled interest in golf. There are more rounds of golf being played now than before. Supply and Demand certainly plays a role, but there is often a story why a course is charging what it does.

I’ve been involved in the ownership and operation of a semi private golf course for the past eleven years so I am keenly interested in what is happening in the golf industry.

Despite living in an area that is enjoying a fair amount of population growth and enjoying a climate that allows for year round outside golf there are no golf courses being built right now. There are also no new public practice facilities or driving ranges being built.

Many of the courses that are around have had a change of ownership in the past few years. A few have closed. Two have reduced the number of holes they have. A couple have gone private or did some kind of recapitalization plan to keep operating.

To build a decent quality course around here it would cost a minimum of roughly about $10,000,000. This would encompass the cost to acquire the land, hire a design and construction firm, clear and shape the land, install irrigation, and then install the tee boxes, greens, bunkers and turf, purchase tractors, mowers, utility vehicles, a fleet of golf carts, build a club house, machine shed, and cart barn.

Then depending on the course conditions you want, number of rounds to support and other amenities like restaurants, locker rooms, pro shop, practice facilities, etc. it will cost you at least $1,000,000 - $2,000,000 every year to staff and operate the course.

It is usually cheaper to buy an existing course than to build one. Often because the previous owners aren’t making money. Golf courses are often lucky to cover the operating expenses from their revenue. If they are private they have membership dues to build a budget around. Municipal courses are generally getting some type of subsidies to operate.

Depending on the area of the country the land costs and labor rates might be higher or lower, which could change the math a bit. Equipment costs, fuel and chemicals though are pretty standard across the country.

I’m hopeful that the current spike in interest in golf will continue. Even so I don’t expect the supply of golf courses to change much.
 
Kind of the same thought but when we lived in Dallas, they have a full range of private clubs from $1,500 to $200,000 initiation clubs but when we moved to Fort Worth (proper) the options are $40-150K. I found that a little odd.
 
Cheap memberships? I wish.

"Summer" memberships used to be affordable down this way, now they are even stupid expensive.
 
I would guess a lot of it is supply and demand. Spanish Oaks near me charges $200,000 to join and apparently people keep joining cause it was $150,000 just a few years ago.
but you might get to tee it up with Sergio Garcia!
 
but you might get to tee it up with Sergio Garcia!
That is true. I'd have to take out a second mortgage on my home to pay for it, but I might run into Sergio!

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$200 a month for 2 courses unlimited golf and range balls. Really like both courses and we walk quite a bit now
 
$200 a month for 2 courses unlimited golf and range balls. Really like both courses and we walk quite a bit now
that's a steal for those 2 courses. If I lived on that side of town I would be taking that too!
 
$200 a month for 2 courses unlimited golf and range balls. Really like both courses and we walk quite a bit now
Golf is so much less down in Houston than here in Austin. A member at my club moved down there about 4 years ago and join a club. He said it was less than ours and had two courses and was in better shape. Ours is stupid expensive for what we get since they don't maintain the course well. I'm paying $740 per month after tax which includes my trail fee for my cart and storing it down in the cart barn.
 
Golf is very inexpensive here in Northern Michigan. I can only guess as to the reasons. Lower taxes... shorter season... irrigation availability...???I don't really know why. I haven't played a ton of courses in other regions or states, but most of the inexpensive, open to the public courses here are very well maintained. A couple of those courses offer yearly unlimited memberships for under $500 per year with a few more slightly higher. I pay under $400 per season at my home course. I walk the course so that would be my golf budget if I didn't like playing some of the other courses.

There are a few higher-end courses within a 45 minutes drive as well with a couple of them making top 100 course lists. Membership at those private courses require more than just a boat load of money.
 
Charlotte is out of hand. I see some people like yeah it's 1000 initiation and then 150 a month. It's like 6k plus 450 a month plus cart fee per round for the cheap ones here.
 
Best deal around here is $118/month (not including cart) and gets you on any of the 4 city-ran muni courses. They're generally kept in decent shape and it's nice because you aren't stuck playing the same track. I'm not sure of the prices for some of the clubs around, but I imagine they're all higher.
 
Golf is so much less down in Houston than here in Austin. A member at my club moved down there about 4 years ago and join a club. He said it was less than ours and had two courses and was in better shape. Ours is stupid expensive for what we get since they don't maintain the course well. I'm paying $740 per month after tax which includes my trail fee for my cart and storing it down in the cart barn.
holy moley! I'd be driving out to Burnet every day and paying that price for 6months at Delaware Springs
 
Golf is so much less down in Houston than here in Austin. A member at my club moved down there about 4 years ago and join a club. He said it was less than ours and had two courses and was in better shape. Ours is stupid expensive for what we get since they don't maintain the course well. I'm paying $740 per month after tax which includes my trail fee for my cart and storing it down in the cart barn.
Our subdivision course is $7500 initiation and $560 a month plus cart fees.

My courses are public with no clubhouse or other benefits, but the courses are nice
 
We have some pretty good deals here in RI, but a lot of that is due to the density of golf courses to area. What COVID did was really separate some of the higher end clubs around here. Where I am is what I would consider mid-level, and pre-covid when I joined was $1,000 initiation, and it's jumped to $15,000. Dues have jumped too
 
FLA memberships are total freaking crazy at some "clubs". You can purchase a fancy new car for some of the prices. But these are "private clubs". But what burns my tiddy whities, If you want to pay $50k PLUS for a golf membership which also seems to include every other membership plan offered at the club, why are these clubs allowing high school and college teams to play practice rounds there for FREE :mad:and a local resident that lives within that club can't even use the practice facilities or PAY to play even one round of golf a month.. .:mad:
 
Cheapest membership in my area. 5k sign sign on. 5k annual it gets you 4 none private course that vary in condition and play, but you are fighting the public for tee times and these courses are always packed..
 
The number of people I run into in the PHX area that are members at multiple golf/country clubs in the area is astonishing. All with high initiation fees and annual dues. There is so much public golf that as someone that doesn't have F U money I can get by on. Public golf has also exploded in costs. You have to keep green golf courses in the desert, it is a hard thing to do.

Back to the original question. There is a supply/demand thing. There is a cost to run things component which can vary a lot by region. There is the exclusivity thing. A lot of factors fall into place.
 
The number of people I run into in the PHX area that are members at multiple golf/country clubs in the area is astonishing. All with high initiation fees and annual dues. There is so much public golf that as someone that doesn't have F U money I can get by on. Public golf has also exploded in costs. You have to keep green golf courses in the desert, it is a hard thing to do.

Back to the original question. There is a supply/demand thing. There is a cost to run things component which can vary a lot by region. There is the exclusivity thing. A lot of factors fall into place.
There is also a seasonal component.. here the courses are basically closed for 3-6 months depending on the winter..
 
Our subdivision course is $7500 initiation and $560 a month plus cart fees.

My courses are public with no clubhouse or other benefits, but the courses are nice
Yeah the only 3 courses in Georgetown are private clubs. The nearest public courses to me are about 20 miles and 30-40 minutes with traffic. Also 5+ hours rounds at those and they are always packed.
 
holy moley! I'd be driving out to Burnet every day and paying that price for 6months at Delaware Springs
Yeah but an hour drive each way plus gas wouldn't make it worth it to me. It would limit me to probably 4 round per month as I couldn't just go during the evening after work and the wife wouldn't like me spending both my Saturday and Sunday being gone the whole day. Also, I like the competition of our MGA Tournaments, Member/Guest, and money games.
 
Have seen it vary wildly around me as well. Private at $15k/$600 a month, to semi private at $5k/$300 a month and then public with privileges at $3k for year.
 
Best course value in my are is in a tiny casino town right on the border of Idaho Nevada Called Jackpot Golf Club. Nice 18 hole track that they do a good job of maintaining.
Season pass is $325 or $525 with a cart. Stupid cheap. I think the casinos might subsidize the course for it to be that cheap.
The two country clubs vary drastically with one semi private club being around around $2500 initiation fee with a $750 annual dues, while the nicer 100% private will run around $20,000 for an equity with a $1,500 initiation fee with $525 monthly dues. The nicer one has a private lake as well.
This is in south central Idaho and we can golf about 10-11 months of the year, sometimes 12 if we get a warmer winter.
 
Some folks have no idea how lucky they are. Around here there's not a private course within a 30 minute drive that's less than $20,000 initiation and $400+ a month in dues.

I got all excited when I saw they're building a new course west of Nashville. I was praying it was public because we desperately need another public course, but was it? Oh heck no. Ultra-exclusive private. Initiation: $350,000. Didn't bother inquiring about the monthly dues.
 
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Yeah but an hour drive each way plus gas wouldn't make it worth it to me. It would limit me to probably 4 round per month as I couldn't just go during the evening after work and the wife wouldn't like me spending both my Saturday and Sunday being gone the whole day. Also, I like the competition of our MGA Tournaments, Member/Guest, and money games.
The early morning 2.5 hour rounds make my country club membership so worth it. Tee off at 7 am and I am home by 10 no problem.
 
I know of nothing in the Phoenix area that I can afford. Lots of discount memberships and such. I checked into one private club by my house years ago and was floored.
 
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