So when companies talk about data driven innovation. Testing. Player performance data. Etc. All of it. And you talk seriously about changing the balls all of its been done with .. I seriously get chest pains. I can't even.
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Then the PGA Tour has no choice but to accept it, same with ANGC and the PGA of America. All of them could have told the USGA to go piss up a rope and we're not going to use your local rule, but if it's in the Rules of Golf it's not an option.
Because it does nothing but cause problems.Non legal balls exist in the marketplace now. Why aren’t more amateurs using them?
Because the current legal ones are fine, and most of those are ROCKS or cost 50 bucks a ball.Non legal balls exist in the marketplace now. Why aren’t more amateurs using them?
also, losing 5% of their distance will not change Joe public’s game one bit.Go tee it up on a Saturday at any public course in America. Excess distance is NOT a problem at the amateur level.
Hurts the ball industry a bit, no argument on that.Because the current legal ones are fine, and most of those are ROCKS or cost 50 bucks a ball.
But, make the “legal” balls shorter and you now have a whole industry who already knows how to make a non conforming golf ball that performs, without having to go to extremes or re-work their manufacturing processes.
It hurts golfers, forget about the industry.Hurts the ball industry a bit, no argument on that.
also, losing 5% of their distance will not change Joe public’s game one bit.
Hell most people out there just put whatever ball they find in the woods in play and that varies a whole lot more than whatever hypothetical roll back is that is coming.
I’m all in with you.I’m clearly in the minority here, but in my mind if the ball gets rolled back simply move up a set of tees and move on.
What will be fascinating to me is if OEM’s give the middle finger and continue to keep an “illegal” ball (Or balls) in their line.
For the vast majority of courses I play, that have 3 tees, moving up a tee would shave 2000 yards off a course.I’m clearly in the minority here, but in my mind if the ball gets rolled back simply move up a set of tees and move on.
But would each course have that big of gap between tees?For the vast majority of courses I play, that have 3 tees, moving up a tee would shave 2000 yards off a course.
Last year we got paired with a female high school player, who played from the front tees at 4500 yards vs the 6300 yard middle tees we play. She was 50 yards or less from every par 4 green, and hitting 8 iron 2nd shots into par 5's. That's not the type of golf I want to play. (She was practicing for a tournament that was played from those tees)
Our whites are 5838. If you move forward to the greens, it's 4823. A 1,015 yard difference. Sure, courses could put in new tee boxes to bridge the gaps, but it would cost them a lot of money and what's the benefit to them?But would each course have that big of gap between tees?
I’d argue that’s a course design problem. What happens when someone’s speed is changing such as the example you gave? A kid growing into the game will have such a challenge jumping from 4500 to 6300 and conversely adults will try to cling too long to 6300 before dropping.