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  • #16
    Originally posted by Quickstrike View Post
    I think they should trade 1 of the big 3 to fill a need on D. I don't see how they can improve their D and overall depth if they pay Marner what he's worth in today's market.
    His worth is what, 11-12% of the cap. Basically 8.5-9? No way he is worth the 11 mill that he is rumoured to be asking for.


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    • #17
      Originally posted by Golf Ghost View Post
      His worth is what, 11-12% of the cap. Basically 8.5-9? No way he is worth the 11 mill that he is rumoured to be asking for.


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      That seems fair. This has to be the best RFA class ever and they're all going to get paid big bucks.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Golf Ghost View Post
        His worth is what, 11-12% of the cap. Basically 8.5-9? No way he is worth the 11 mill that he is rumoured to be asking for.


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        Even if you want to max him out, he’s arguably worth what Kane signed for after his entry level was up. Which on today’s cap was between 9 and 9.5 for 5 years. Marner apparently doesn’t want 7 or 8 years unless getting Matthews money. I’m betting this ends up at 6x10. Which seems fair. Anything beyond that I say trade him. He’s my favourite player, but have to be smart in a cap world. I say either take the 4 firsts if offer sheeted, or if not signed by training camp, trade him for a top pair RD. Then use the extra money (unless Doughty not gonna cost as much) to upgrade team. Hard if wait for camp, but if do asap, could resign Gardiner, or maybe try and get Ferland or Donskoi.
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        • #19
          What teams have a top defenseman to spare for a winger that wants big bucks? I think they will have to lose the trade on paper much like Hall for Larsson.
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          • #20
            Bobby Lou announcers his retirement. Really hope to see him stay in the game in some form. Great character.


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            • #21
              Originally posted by Golf Ghost View Post
              Bobby Lou announcers his retirement. Really hope to see him stay in the game in some form. Great character.


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              I,m sure the Panthers will find him a job
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Quickstrike View Post
                What teams have a top defenseman to spare for a winger that wants big bucks? I think they will have to lose the trade on paper much like Hall for Larsson.
                I would suspect it to be a team that doesn't necessarily have one to spare, but someone looking to rebuild or go a different way. Marner is still crazy young. I think trading him or his rights if still a RFA would be very complicated.


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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Golf Ghost View Post
                  I would suspect it to be a team that doesn't necessarily have one to spare, but someone looking to rebuild or go a different way. Marner is still crazy young. I think trading him or his rights if still a RFA would be very complicated.


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                  I'm sure the Habs would give Weber for him, I don't know how much better they could get
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by MPlefty View Post
                    I'm sure the Habs would give Weber for him, I don't know how much better they could get
                    You can keep that contract haha.


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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Golf Ghost View Post
                      You can keep that contract haha.


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                      100% agree. If they kept half of it maybe.

                      Originally posted by Quickstrike View Post
                      What teams have a top defenseman to spare for a winger that wants big bucks? I think they will have to lose the trade on paper much like Hall for Larsson.
                      Straight up for Doughty? Or maybe to Carolina for Pesce or Hamilton plus plus? Or, and as I’m an Oiler fan I’d love this one... to Edmonton for Larsson, Puljujarvi and 2 firsts?
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                      • #26
                        The problem with the Leafs is that they have 3 defense prospects with the potential to be Top 4 guys. However, they're not ready this year or even next, which essentially is when the Leafs window is.


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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Golf Ghost View Post
                          The problem with the Leafs is that they have 3 defense prospects with the potential to be Top 4 guys. However, they're not ready this year or even next, which essentially is when the Leafs window is.


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                          Ideally their window is at least 5 years (until Matthews goes to Phoenix...if they’re still there). Idk just how far away Sandin and Liljegren are. With current D Corp plus injuries they should get a decent look with the big club. I don’t think either sticks around all year, but the 20/21 season I bet both are on the team in regular roles. Liljegren likely in top 4 role right away just bc Reilly and Dermott are ahead of Sandin. My ideal D Corp is:
                          Gardiner - Reilly
                          Dermott - new player
                          Sandin - Liljegren
                          Rosen - Holl
                          Switching around those bottom 4 regularly.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by oiler3535 View Post
                            Ideally their window is at least 5 years (until Matthews goes to Phoenix...if they’re still there). Idk just how far away Sandin and Liljegren are. With current D Corp plus injuries they should get a decent look with the big club. I don’t think either sticks around all year, but the 20/21 season I bet both are on the team in regular roles. Liljegren likely in top 4 role right away just bc Reilly and Dermott are ahead of Sandin. My ideal D Corp is:
                            Gardiner - Reilly
                            Dermott - new player
                            Sandin - Liljegren
                            Rosen - Holl
                            Switching around those bottom 4 regularly.
                            Where does the money for Gardiner come from?

                            Also Andersen only has 2 years remaining on his deal and Reilly has 3?




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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by oiler3535 View Post
                              100% agree. If they kept half of it maybe.



                              Straight up for Doughty? Or maybe to Carolina for Pesce or Hamilton plus plus? Or, and as I’m an Oiler fan I’d love this one... to Edmonton for Larsson, Puljujarvi and 2 firsts?
                              if the Oilers are willing to pay that much, why not just send an offer sheet?
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Golf Ghost View Post
                                Where does the money for Gardiner come from?

                                Also Andersen only has 2 years remaining on his deal and Reilly has 3?



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                                If can trade Zaitzev and maybe Brown they have plenty of space.
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