Summit
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All launch monitors are using calculations indoors. TrackMan is fine if the fitter knows how to read the data and understand how strike can produce wonky numbers.
Club Fittings for Irons
All launch monitors are using calculations indoors. TrackMan is fine if the fitter knows how to read the data and understand how strike can produce wonky numbers.
I was really happy with my pgass tour van fitting. My fitter was helpful with what he saw in my swing and I tried a butt load of irons and a few different shaft combos. I was kinda gassed at the end
Other than the intermediate demo club suggestion, the above is what I was considering doing for my irons fitting. I've my LGS and, about 45 minutes away, a CC. The above seems like a rational approach and adds only about 10% to the overall cost--based on $1400 for a set of irons. Hitting demo irons in the interim costs merely time.
Of course, if the two fitters come up with wildly disparate results/recommendations: Then what?
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Tenputt, I'm going to generalize about each of the three items you observed. So, please understand when I talk about the person being fitted, I'm generalizing not referring specifically to you or your experience.
1. I'm right there with you. Top fitters have told me about the importance of fitting with the ball you use. They've even gone as far as saying that if you haven't been fitted for a ball, do that first and then stick with that ball for the fitting and thereafter. From everything I know and have heard, this is a key piece that differentiates good from poor fitters and fittings.
2. This was a big red flag for me with one proviso. I've never had a good fitting that didn't involve some type of playing 20 Questions. It could be with a written questionnaire and then some review together and follow up questions at the beginning of the fitting, or it could all be done at the fitting. Whether it's written or verbal all good fitters have a pretty well developed plan of what information they need to collect. Here's the proviso. These same good fitters all report occasionally getting customers who insist on controlling the conversation and/or telling you their life story. A good fitter can and should lead the conversation. If you find you HAVE to lead, because they aren't that's a sign of a poor fitter. Head for the door if they don't engage. If you feel you need to control the conversation, don't be that guy. You are going to a fitter for THEIR expertise.
3. I once wondered about this too. I have had many conversations with some really good fitters that have given me some very logical explanations of how and why this works. (Too long to cover all of them here.) As others have indicated, the fitter is not evaluating your swing, they are fitting you for equipment. Suffice it to say that your height, weight, girth, and other physical characteristics, as well as the basic characteristics of your swing that relate to your fit are not going to change much based on the iron number you have in your hand, and to the extend it does, it's mostly an instruction issue and not a fitting issue.
I realize there are many of you who, as I once did, question the use of a 6-iron, as opposed to a different numbered club, or a variety of clubs, and I don't expect the short summary above to be enough to change your mind. It took several in depth conversations before I could see how and why this works. I only ask that you be open to the possibility and be willing to explore this further.
1. I'm right there with you. Top fitters have told me about the importance of fitting with the ball you use. They've even gone as far as saying that if you haven't been fitted for a ball, do that first and then stick with that ball for the fitting and thereafter. From everything I know and have heard, this is a key piece that differentiates good from poor fitters and fittings.
2. This was a big red flag for me with one proviso. I've never had a good fitting that didn't involve some type of playing 20 Questions. It could be with a written questionnaire and then some review together and follow up questions at the beginning of the fitting, or it could all be done at the fitting. Whether it's written or verbal all good fitters have a pretty well developed plan of what information they need to collect. Here's the proviso. These same good fitters all report occasionally getting customers who insist on controlling the conversation and/or telling you their life story. A good fitter can and should lead the conversation. If you find you HAVE to lead, because they aren't that's a sign of a poor fitter. Head for the door if they don't engage. If you feel you need to control the conversation, don't be that guy. You are going to a fitter for THEIR expertise.
3. I once wondered about this too. I have had many conversations with some really good fitters that have given me some very logical explanations of how and why this works. (Too long to cover all of them here.) As others have indicated, the fitter is not evaluating your swing, they are fitting you for equipment. Suffice it to say that your height, weight, girth, and other physical characteristics, as well as the basic characteristics of your swing that relate to your fit are not going to change much based on the iron number you have in your hand, and to the extend it does, it's mostly an instruction issue and not a fitting issue.
I realize there are many of you who, as I once did, question the use of a 6-iron, as opposed to a different numbered club, or a variety of clubs, and I don't expect the short summary above to be enough to change your mind. It took several in depth conversations before I could see how and why this works. I only ask that you be open to the possibility and be willing to explore this further.
I've done a couple fittings a club champion and I'm torn. The last fitting I had there the suggestions were a bit "out there" compared to what I've been playing and I don't think I've been all that consistent with the setup. Turned out to be an expensive experiment. I think, especially if you have a strong inclination what you want, you can get dialed in pretty well somewhere else. Especially if you know which shaft you want.
To the OP, it sounds like your issue is the fitter more than the concept of iron fitting. I've been fit at a demo day indoors where they let me put dots on the ball.
Summit
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Other than the intermediate demo club suggestion, the above is what I was considering doing for my irons fitting. I've my LGS and, about 45 minutes away, a CC. The above seems like a rational approach and adds only about 10% to the overall cost--based on $1400 for a set of irons. Hitting demo irons in the interim costs merely time.
Of course, if the two fitters come up with wildly disparate results/recommendations: Then what?
I would suggest instead of going to multiple fitters, find one that is good and stick with them. Find one that gives you trust in what they do and also relieves stress with playability guarantees and other pros by going through them.
Hopefully one of the sessions made you feel better than the otherOf course, if the two fitters come up with wildly disparate results/recommendations: Then what?
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#2 is a red flag - hope you didn’t pay for it
Love the search option! I was trying to find out if they use the 6i like most other fittings or if if it was something different. I knew someone would have posted the answer! The fitting at ECPC is going to be
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Love the search option! I was trying to find out if they use the 6i like most other fittings or if if it was something different. I knew someone would have posted the answer! The fitting at ECPC is going to be
