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That is why some folks say Hogan's book "5 Fundamentals" is a slicer recipe.I decided to swap from my strong grip to a more neutral grip because it was limiting the radial deviation of my wrist and forcing me to do a lot of extension. For one thing, I was losing power but it was also starting to ache a lot after playing.
With a more neutral grip, the swing feels quite a lot more natural and I can feel the club head ‘wiping’ with more speed which is satisfying when I strike it right BUT, I’ve suddenly developed a slight tendency to hit some brutal slices.
It feels almost like the club slips slightly in the downswing and ends up striking the ball way more open than it was in the address.
It only seems to happen when I do a full-swing with wrist hinge at end of the backswing. When I’m doing half swings for warmup or with my pitching wedge I don’t have the same issue. Straight as an arrow with good ball connection (this grip has dramatically improved my short-game, actually).
Any ideas what it could be? I feel like it’s either the plane or my swing (something I have previously struggled with, especially when moving through different clubs with different lengths) or that I am twisting my wrist and opening the club face when I unwind that wrist hinge that I add at the top of the backswing.
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I'm in the neutral grip , face closed camp.Since the grip change is only effecting the longer clubs, I might suggest moving the ball farther forward in your stance. Do this until you start hitting pull, or hooks. Then move the ball back a little in your stance until the hooks disappear.
Chances are if you are hitting your short game shots well, your swing is not that bad.
I use a nuetral grip on all my shots. Something I do, is at address, I square my driver/3W club face up behind the ball on my intended target line. I then move the club back to my swing starting position. This of course makes the club face look like it's a little open. This is fine for my swing.
I know others who start their driver swing from a slightly closed club face condition. Just the opposite of what I do. By the time our club heads reach the ball, the club face is square to our target line. We basically hit the same ball flights.
Yeah thats what my swing guru had me do. He was a firm believer that alot of times, the hands (grip) duri g the the down swing, didn't return to the exact same position they were at address.I'm in the neutral grip , face closed camp.
I just played around with the face at address until I found what worked for me. More closed for driver, less closed as I work through the bag
I thought I was square face to target. Until I started practicing slo motion swings indoors. no ball, one winter. Turns out, my swing style opened the face at contact point. I chose to change nothing else. Just start with face slightly closed , at least in my judgement, at address.
There is so much to tinker with in a golf swing. I find if I change more than one thing at a time, I am hooped.
Yeah thats what my swing guru had me do. He was a firm believer that alot of times, the hands (grip) duri g the the down swing, didn't return to the exact same position they were at address.
He called it his "1/8" inch rule". 1/8" meaning you moved the club face, open, or closed an 1/8" at a time to find a squarer club face at impact..
From some "old school" trial and error full swing instruction, I start my back swing with my club face closed to my target line a little.How do you avoid problems with the club face squaring at impact with the more neutral grip?
With a neutral grip, my wrist hinge naturally opens the club face so I find that if there is ‘lag’ in my swing where the wrists haven’t straightened out yet fully at the point of impact, the club face is basically open and I hit a slice.
With a stronger right hand grip, I find my natural wrist hinge is perfectly in line with the plane of the swing so even if the club head is lagging behind my swing by a split second, it is still square with the ball at impact.
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That slo motion practice, no ball, will show you what position your club face is at impact. Put a quarter on the floor to use as the target. I did that. It showed me how open I was at impact. So, I started with the club face closed by that amount. Not changing my grip, just starting with the face closed that little bit.How do you avoid problems with the club face squaring at impact with the more neutral grip?
With a neutral grip, my wrist hinge naturally opens the club face so I find that if there is ‘lag’ in my swing where the wrists haven’t straightened out yet fully at the point of impact, the club face is basically open and I hit a slice.
With a stronger right hand grip, I find my natural wrist hinge is perfectly in line with the plane of the swing so even if the club head is lagging behind my swing by a split second, it is still square with the ball at impact.
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In order to correct a problem with ball flight, it helps to know exactly what causes the ball flight your trying to stop.I decided to swap from my strong grip to a more neutral grip because it was limiting the radial deviation of my wrist and forcing me to do a lot of extension. For one thing, I was losing power but it was also starting to ache a lot after playing.
With a more neutral grip, the swing feels quite a lot more natural and I can feel the club head ‘wiping’ with more speed which is satisfying when I strike it right BUT, I’ve suddenly developed a slight tendency to hit some brutal slices.
It feels almost like the club slips slightly in the downswing and ends up striking the ball way more open than it was in the address.
It only seems to happen when I do a full-swing with wrist hinge at end of the backswing. When I’m doing half swings for warmup or with my pitching wedge I don’t have the same issue. Straight as an arrow with good ball connection (this grip has dramatically improved my short-game, actually).
Any ideas what it could be? I feel like it’s either the plane or my swing (something I have previously struggled with, especially when moving through different clubs with different lengths) or that I am twisting my wrist and opening the club face when I unwind that wrist hinge that I add at the top of the backswing.
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