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    No difference. If there is I know something is wrong with my swing.
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    I actually strike it low on the face when teed up so I get a lower ball flight with roll out. That is why generally on a par 3 I do not use a tee and just hit it off the ground. If it is the right distance I want that spinny landing that I would get from the fairway. On longer par 3's I can't use an iron anyway so it doesn't matter.
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    I get the same distances off the fairway as I do the tee. And usually on a par 3 I won't use a tee b/c I make better contact off the ground vs teeing it up slightly.....

    Only difference is when I use a 2 iron on driving holes. Teed up just a little I get better launch with the 2 iron compared to the fairway and ill see about 15 extra yards
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molten View Post
    I haven't done any testing to confirm it, but I assume most people have an AoA closer to neutral (or even positive) off a tee. I'd wager a guess that impacts this calculus
    I’d wager a guess that most golfers don’t have the proper negative angle of attack on their irons off the fairway either. I see lots of irons swept off the grass and with that lots of fat and thin shots as well. According to Trackman, the average PGA Tour player has a negative angle of attack even with his driver.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tahoebum View Post
    I’d wager a guess that most golfers don’t have the proper negative angle of attack on their irons off the fairway either. I see lots of irons swept off the grass and with that lots of fat and thin shots as well. According to Trackman, the average PGA Tour player has a negative angle of attack even with his driver.
    Hardest thing for me to teach kids, not sweeping their dang irons and wedges. It’s second nature to just sweep everything I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jman View Post
    Hardest thing for me to teach kids, not sweeping their dang irons and wedges. It’s second nature to just sweep everything I guess.
    Out of curiosity how do you try to teach them that? Do they fear the fat shot?
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    I will typically see about 5-7 yards difference total wise, but off the tee I will see probably around 8 yards of carry difference with higher flight so it stops versus the lower flight of the turf ball that rolls out a little.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdtox View Post
    Out of curiosity how do you try to teach them that? Do they fear the fat shot?
    I don't teach but the visual that has helped for me is that I try to visualize a nail on the ball that I try to hammer down (with an angle of course). Then I become more task oriented, this has helped me on striking my irons way better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdtox View Post
    Out of curiosity how do you try to teach them that? Do they fear the fat shot?
    Best thing I’ve found is teaching them about where the club is bottoming out and getting them to understand the club hits the ball first.

    Focusing on a point in front of the ball as their “strike spot” helps them start to learn that, plus, it gets them to realize the ground is not going to hurt you when wielding a large steel object.
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    Assuming that I'm in the fairway with a good lie, I see no difference, in fact, I feel more confident hitting it off the fairway than on a tee. When hitting with a tee on the tee box, I try to position the ball as low as possible for this very reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jman View Post
    Focusing on a point in front of the ball as their “strike spot” helps them start to learn that, plus, it gets them to realize the ground is not going to hurt you when wielding a large steel object.
    That’s exactly how I learned to hit down on the ball with my irons, eventually it becomes second nature and you can just focus on the ball. Great method to learn how to properly hit irons!
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    I quit using a tee from the box with any iron, I just knock a little tuft of turf up and place the ball on top. Do it with fairways too sometimes. Irons maybe go a touch farther. Not much.




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    If I tee the ball up when using an iron, I need to make sure I actually tee it super low. I notice if I'm a bit careless I will catch the ball high on the face and hit a real short one.

    Even when not using a tee, because of the flat even lie sometimes even tight, I can hit a further shot. Maybe when thinking max distance I can maybe get 5-8 extra yards of carry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TRA024 View Post
    I don't teach but the visual that has helped for me is that I try to visualize a nail on the ball that I try to hammer down (with an angle of course). Then I become more task-oriented, this has helped me on striking my irons way better.
    I find the ability of our bodies to do what they are told is pretty remarkable given a simple set of directions. I found great success just telling people I want them to hit the ball then the ground 4 inches in front. This can be done by most players after just a few practice swings as long as you make that the total focus and don't mix in other stuff.
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    Probably a full club, so nearly 10 yards. It is what I play for when I tee up my irons anyway, and it is usually accurate.
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