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I switched to a mac around a year ago and havent had a single problem with it. I got it because my old laptop was a piece and had problems with it after about 3 months but made it last three years.

I do agree that there arent many programs but I have everything that I use because all games that I play are on the PS3
 
I have been building my own PCs for the past 10 years or so - upgrading and replacing hardware along the way as needed. Haven't bought a retail priced computer during that time. Don't own a laptop, don't need one, everywhere I go during a normal day I have a desktop computer to use. Don't have a Mac because you can't buy the parts and build one and because - well - I don't need one. My PCs have always worked fine, no crashes no blue screens, even with Win98. I have had 3-4 of them networked at home for the past 7 or 8 years and with strong security I don't worry about them.
 
I don't own a mac basically because I have major issues with Apple as a company. I'm not going into it because most of it is obvious stuff but I won't buy anything from them. Additionally I won't pay $1800 for a computer when I can build one (or buy in the case of laptops) that significantly outspecs it in every last category for less than $1000. No OS is worth $800 especially when it's locked down like a prison by Warden Jobs.

See? I said I wasn't going into it and look... This is a bad topic for me :)
 
flowrider said:
Oh but you can.

Check out the OSX86 project.
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That is hard to take seriously, gimmicking off the Matrix. Fact is when I started building boxes you could not build a Mac and now I have been working with PCs long enough that I have no interest in starting all over again figuring out how to make a Mac box that runs. Sorry, but Mac just doesn't exist in my universe.
 
Hard to take seriously? I guess you aren't as big a gear head as I thought. I've built my first box which was a Pentium 100 and it was damn fast at the time. Since then I've built overclocked rigs using air and watercooling.

I guess for me it's all about figuring out how to make something work not about the validity of it.
 
flowrider said:
Hard to take seriously? I guess you aren't as big a gear head as I thought. I've built my first box which was a Pentium 100 and it was damn fast at the time. Since then I've built overclocked rigs using air and watercooling.

I guess for me it's all about figuring out how to make something work not about the validity of it.
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What can I say, you are obviously gifted. Good luck with that.
 
pjcedog said:
What can I say, you are obviously gifted. Good luck with that.
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And here it is I thought you were special. I mean 10 years is FOREVER in computers. No need to get pissy either. I actually thought that someone who has been building, networking, and upgrading boxes over the years (like myself) would have a genuine interest a challenge. I guess I was wrong.

Maybe it's late and I'm taking what you written wrong.
 
I've built a pile of PC's over the years, used to be into overclocking, continual upgrading, etc. Then I went back to school and was doing a lot of programming (school and work) in C, C++, Fortran, Python, and Perl. I ran Linux (normally Redhat, Fedora, or Suse) on various work and home boxes (one Redhat box at a place I worked 5 years ago is still up and running without reboot). In the early 90's I told a co-worker that it would take a full frontal lobotomy to get me to switch to a Mac.

Then I looked at OS X. I'm sorry guys, my experience is different. I don't miss building my own PC's (much). I don't play video games that often. I do more with photography and music. Plus I have all of the programming tools I used to have on Linux. The default OS X/Mac platform just works for me. I really can't see switching back at this point until Apple does something truly stupid.
 
I've been a Mac user since 1984. Of course I've used PCs but for my personal use I've always been a Mac user.

I am currently have a 5 year old PowerBook and my wife and son use an iMac. I spent $19.95 for a router and have WiFi in the house, which is nice with the laptop.
 
flowrider said:
And here it is I thought you were special. I mean 10 years is FOREVER in computers. No need to get pissy either. I actually thought that someone who has been building, networking, and upgrading boxes over the years (like myself) would have a genuine interest a challenge. I guess I was wrong.

Maybe it's late and I'm taking what you written wrong.
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I have found that it is common for people to project their own thoughts and feelings onto others assuming in the process that others will have the same response to the same stimulus and conditions. This is a false assumption. The real challenge in life is not in tinkering with hardware it is learning to control our minds and emotions.
 
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I have both. I dont think Ive ever had an issue with the macbook but my pc is a different story. And Im a IT guy lol. But I choose to tinker a lot. I can never leave good enough a lone.
 
I'm a Mac guy. When I started working at a major Las Vegas sportsbook in '89 we had a PC and I couldn't stand the thing. I had no background in computers other than student newspaper usage earlier in the decade.

I didn't understand the workings of the PC. That was my frustration. Other than the basic programs we used for lines and scores and statistics, I couldn't figure out anything and merely turned the computer on and off. Everything seemed rigid and forced and bland, or at least no attempt to encourage you to alter for your own preference.

Back home visiting my parents in Miami at Christmas a few years later, my dad had a new Mac Quadra 650. He emphasized to me how interesting it was, and customizable. I scoffed at the notion until I was bored one night, staying up to my typical 3-4 AM Las Vegas style, while everyone else was asleep.

To my amazement I discovered control panels and extension sets and suddenly I could make the darn thing look and act wildly different based on my own choices. I'm not saying that wasn't available on a PC but it certainly wasn't as obvious or as dramatic. I loved watching the dancing icons at the bottom of the Mac screen, so different than the extension set I tried minutes earlier. I'd look for the new ones and the missing ones. I'd even attempt masochistic maneuvers like leaving out an extension that I discovered was vital to a program. Sure enough, crash and burn, until I fixed it. :D

I was hooked at that point. I forget if it was System 6 or 7. My first Mac I tried to get cute and buy one that also allowed Windows capability, a Quadra 610 Dos Compatible. I never used the Windows aspect one time, never even installed it. Friends relying on fear were insisting I couldn't manage on Mac software alone but it's never been an issue.

I started reading about Macintosh history, specifically Steve Jobs. Once he returned from Pixar it wasn't exactly gambling to guess that he would out think and out maneuver the PC clods, after having years to strategize. Admittedly, part of my love for Apple is I invested nicely in their stock in the mid '90s, initially at just below $20 per share. I can't count how many splits there have been. The recession has been less of a slam, thanks to Apple. My only regret is dutifully investing in an IRA at the same time, when my instincts every year told me to throw the entire chunk into Apple.

The price aspect is overrated. Just like anything else, you've got to be a numbskull to look at retail pricing to the exclusion of researching the best venues for used Macs, or bundled bargains on new Macs. My sister is a great example. She'll spend 5 minutes online and be quite smug she's found the best price on an item. I'll use some different search terms and beat her price by 50% or more. Happens all the time. That gap wouldn't apply to computers but it's the same principal. Sites like LowEndMac have been around for more than a decade, reviewing old models and recommendations of best purchase sites. EveryMac.com is a great source on every model, including original specs and minimum operating system, etc. On ebay some sellers simply list poorly, and if you ask the proper questions and look beyond the obvious it's bargains galore. I bought one Mac at below half price simply because a small college in California offered their nearly new computers on ebay, insisting on local pickup. Apparently they switched to PCs on short notice. The local pickup aspect severely limited the buying pool and therefore the price. Within a week they figured it out and offered shipping. The pickup-only auctions were ending every 15 minutes and I bid low until I won. I drove the 200 miles to pick it up (admittedly an investment, $40 gas plus food and time) and when I got there the Macs were side by side on a loading dock. The guy checked off my name and I was allowed to inspect each one, opening the case. A little bit of knowledge really helped. One jumped out at me, with twice the listed RAM and an upgraded video card. That alone would have boosted the ebay price by more than $150, if specifically advertised. Again, price is a crock. A price point is whatever you can make it, with patience and creatively handicapping the options.

I've never had a virus, or even used virus software. Wait, I take that back, there was a little extension called Disinfectant that danced around on the icon row in the old days of Classic. I miss Classic. OS X is the epitome of stable but not quite as customizable or intuitive. I still start up my G4 533 dualie now and again, simply to boot into OS 9.2.2. :D
 
pjcedog said:
I have found that it is common for people to project their own thoughts and feelings onto others assuming in the process that others will have the same response to the same stimulus and conditions. This is a false assumption. The real challenge in life is not in tinkering with hardware it is learning to control our minds and emotions.
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I love it. Another backhanded remark. Thank you for that.:act-up:
 
Definitely PC. I have all PCs at home, and I use 24" Macs in school.

Can't stand Macs. They drive me up a wall.
 
Got a PC right now (Sony Vaio) and I really like it, but my next computer will probably be a Mac. Macs seem to have a lot less problems with the software and with viruses than do PCs.
 
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