I saw that too.Not for nothing but that’s 3 of us with the exact same shaft recommendations, both steel and graphite.
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I saw that too.Not for nothing but that’s 3 of us with the exact same shaft recommendations, both steel and graphite.
Me three..I saw that too.
Both graphitemoving from graphite to steel would be a bigger change / concern for me vs moving from 95 to 75g
I was fit for the Pro95s at club championship like 5-6 months ago. Was in Steelfiber i110 the set before those so I’ve already dropped 15g in weight. I just restarted a hybrid with a 65g shaft because it felt too light. Put in an 85g. Doing the 75g Darts would then make my irons almost as light as my wood shafts (72-75g). My gut says they’d feel really light.All I can tell you is, and by the way, I am bummed the graphs and such were not available - I will email and see if they can be found and sent, anyway I went from regular recoils in 95 to the Dart 75s in the Mizuno irons, it took me maybe 2 or 3 rounds - to get comfortable, now I love that shaft.
Are you dialed in on the shaft/club weights to where it would throw you off?
I get that. Based on your comment, I’d go with the heavier KBS?option.I was fit for the Pro95s at club championship like 5-6 months ago. Was in Steelfiber i110 the set before those so I’ve already dropped 15g in weight. I just restarted a hybrid with a 65g shaft because it felt too light. Put in an 85g. Doing the 75g Darts would then make my irons almost as light as my wood shafts (72-75g). My gut says they’d feel really light.
Huh? I’m a little lost here…So are you implying that the 8-GW might be ordered 1 degree strong to potentially correct the distance between clubs gap? I could have the local store make that adjustment - if I find it needed.
Keep in mind, shaft weights are shaft weights, but it is the swing weight which most golfers notice. Those will still be brought to their standard specs when built with the lighter shafts.I was fit for the Pro95s at club championship like 5-6 months ago. Was in Steelfiber i110 the set before those so I’ve already dropped 15g in weight. I just restarted a hybrid with a 65g shaft because it felt too light. Put in an 85g. Doing the 75g Darts would then make my irons almost as light as my wood shafts (72-75g). My gut says they’d feel really light.
TT DG has always been a “catch all” shaft of sorts, when certain swing parameters are in play. It’s a safe shaft that has been around forever. I’m never really surprised when I see it pop up.Not for nothing but that’s 3 of us with the exact same shaft recommendations, both steel and graphite.
Sure, but the weight also impacts keeping it on plane, tempo, etc. (All things I know you know.) If I’m used to the heavier I worry about dropping so much total weight.Keep in mind, shaft weights are shaft weights, but it is the swing weight which most golfers notice. Those will still be brought to their standard specs when built with the lighter shafts.
Swing weight impacts all those things too.Sure, but the weight also impacts keeping it on plane, tempo, etc. (All things I know you know.) If I’m used to the heavier I worry about dropping so much total weight.
I think it's also important knowing that 15gm weight difference is also the raw uncut shaft weight as well, before its tipped and final length trimmed. Then we get into the swing weight discussion again.Swing weight impacts all those things too.
Think of it this way, if you drop 15g, you’re dropping literally three nickels. Some are absolutely that perceptive to such a small change, but more times than not it’s the paralysis mentally of that change that has the impact.
We are all different for sure, I just think sometimes we get hung up in the minutia. Of course we are on an internet golf forum…
Funny you say this, generally speaking, i try to not worry about any of that stuff past a proper fit by shaft flex and length. The rest, i have enough trouble thinking about the next shot, let alone all the other stuff.Swing weight impacts all those things too.
Think of it this way, if you drop 15g, you’re dropping literally three nickels. Some are absolutely that perceptive to such a small change, but more times than not it’s the paralysis mentally of that change that has the impact.
We are all different for sure, I just think sometimes we get hung up in the minutia. Of course we are on an internet golf forum…
Stop it.I think it's also important knowing that 15gm weight difference is also the raw uncut shaft weight as well, before its tipped and final length trimmed. Then we get into the swing weight discussion again.
Hahaha, I get it, trust me. Golf was way simpler before I knew the things I do now!Funny you say this, generally speaking, i try to not worry about any of that stuff past a proper fit by shaft flex and length. The rest, i have enough trouble thinking about the next shot, let alone all the other stuff.
I'll let myself outStop it.
Dumb question maybe. I know yardage gaps are always the answer. I’ve understood that from years of loft jacking threads.Huh? I’m a little lost here…
My initial post was about my curiosity of how the power hole to non power hole irons gap. Frank brought up the loft gaps, but I’m talking distance gaps. Im saying that you don’t know the distance gaps by focusing on the loft gaps. Too many focus solely on loft gaps. Once you hit them, you see the gaps, which is one of the things we can all discuss in this testing.
I ordered my set lofts bone stock to experience it all in the testing, I’m excited to see what’s what and discuss it with everyone! It’s going to be a ton of fun.
My initial thought was to have the shorter irons bent a little weaker to match the lofts I’m used to but I’ll be ordering stock lofts because it’s better to test them like Wilson recommends so I can experience any odd gapping and adjust from there. I had to bend a couple of my ZX blended set to get the gaps right.Huh? I’m a little lost here…
My initial post was about my curiosity of how the power hole to non power hole irons gap. Frank brought up the loft gaps, but I’m talking distance gaps. Im saying that you don’t know the distance gaps by focusing on the loft gaps. Too many focus solely on loft gaps. Once you hit them, you see the gaps, which is one of the things we can all discuss in this testing.
I ordered my set lofts bone stock to experience it all in the testing, I’m excited to see what’s what and discuss it with everyone! It’s going to be a ton of fun.
I play the 2018 Apex irons shown in my signature.For those selected testers.
What irons are you currently playing? How are these irons different from what you currently play? And What are you expecting to see from these compared to what you currently play?
LOVE this question!For those selected testers.
What irons are you currently playing? How are these irons different from what you currently play? And What are you expecting to see from these compared to what you currently play?