Perfect, that's what I play.I have the zx5 which are historically wider sole than I play. So far 3 rounds in with t150 and I just like the turf interaction better off the tight Bermuda lies. Distance is the same. I’ll report more later.
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Perfect, that's what I play.I have the zx5 which are historically wider sole than I play. So far 3 rounds in with t150 and I just like the turf interaction better off the tight Bermuda lies. Distance is the same. I’ll report more later.
Oh, so you're gonna keep it to yourself?A 4i is back in the bag. The 350 4i just goes high and straight, don’t feel like I have to go after it. Plus Marni gave me a good reminder about hitting 4 irons.
You played very well yesterday with the irons.Going to start comparing numbers from the new irons from my old gamers the Apex CF 19s in the coming weeks. Will be posting some comparisons and thoughts. May even start with a few clubs tonight if I can get my to do list done from being gone. These irons felt so good once I got in the groove with them. It will be interesting to see what numbers changed and by how much. To me distances felt similar, stopping power felt better in all of them and dispersion it felt like when I missed the ball on the face it wasn't too bad of a result.
Well, I received my Apex CB order partially last Saturday. I ordered 7-11 (AW) CB's and received 8-10(PW). I was able to take the few I received out to hit them against my Titleist T150. Couple of things: (For reference, I am coming from playing the TCB and the '21 T100)
1. These look fantastic! Better than the TCB irons I had earlier in the year.
2. They are not that different in size from the T150. Top line is a bit thinner, but honestly to my eye, there is nothing to it. I know the CB is not a direct "competitor" to the T150, But I think the size is more in line with the T150 than the Apex Pros are. The Pros seemed bigger to me.
3. They are more demanding than the T150. I expected this. But man, mishits with the CB you felt and saw. With the T150's I can mishit and it did not penalize me near as much.
4. I will reevaluate the CBs as soon as I get the other 2 irons. I have my league championship next week and the T150s will be in the bag for that! I am gonna find it hard for the Apex CB to beat the T150 just on the forgiveness alone.
I high recommend the T350 4i. It’s very easy to hit and elevate.Well, the new bats came home today. Couldn't take them out in the wild due to the rain, so I set up my net and prgr monitor (it actually reads 2 or 3 mph less than what Trackman shows, and of course without spin numbers) in the barn to work on consistency and contact (thank you Doctor Scholl's). My numbers look good, but will have to see ball flight outside tomorrow. However, my new T200's didn't include a 4 iron, went with a TSR2 4 hybrid which is pretty sweet, but now I have a 20 yard gap between my 5 iron and 4 hybrid. Practicing gripping down if I need to close that gap, but I can forsee a T350 4 iron in my future.
My Apex 21's served me pretty well, but I struggled with the face at setup and was never as consistent as I had been with the Apex Pros for some reason. Not sure why, but I set up over these irons and they look RIGHT. Guess I'll begin finding out tomorrow.
So I expect you’ll be sub 5 index by Robson Ranch.One normal 9 hole league today after work. Shot one under with these. Forgiveness is top notch. I thinned a pw on approach and it still grabbed. I love these irons, so soft and get through the turf great.
Great write up.Was able to hop on the Skytrak plus tonight to start comparing the new Titleist irons to my old gamers which were the Apex CF 19s. Decided to start with the 48, PW, and 9 iron and will continue to work through the bag comparing numbers. For this test I allowed myself 13 shots with each club and kept the best 10. Keep in mind I have only had 3 rounds with the new Titleist irons so still adjusting to them. I have played the Apex 19s since they came out so they are very familiar to me.
For those that don't know yet or didn't see it in the live thread I was fit into the Titleist T350s 4-6 and the T200s 7-GW. The shafts in the new irons are the Mitsubishi Tensei AV red AM 2 in stiff flex and the Apex 19s are KBS C Taper Lite stiff. All shots were using a Pro V1. Let's take a look below.
In the the data below the 1st set of data is the Apex 19s and the 2nd set of data is the T200s and when looking at the shot plotting the Apex 19s are in white and the T200s in red. This will remain consistent throughout when I test.
Both GWs are 48 degrees and the T200s were pretty much higher in all categories. They had higher ball speed, club head speed, launch degrees, back spin (minimal), descent angle, and height. The were also longer in carry but roll out was the same. I am liking what I see here as I am gaining some distance and with that descent angle and spin they will be holding some greens. The dispersion was similar between the clubs but not as many left misses which is good as in the Apex 19s the GW is 2* upright and in the T200s I got them at standard lie, will monitor this on the course to see if I still miss left with the 9-GW.
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Both PWs are 43 degrees and when looking at this data the T200s where not higher in every category. The ball speed and club speed were higher however the spin was a little lower along with the descent angle and there was a little more roll out. I did pick up carry yardage and still think I should be fine stopping this on the green. I didn't have any issue while at Dormie that is for sure. The dispersion is similar with the two clubs but the same as the GW the Apex 19s is 2* upright and in the T200s I got them at standard lie. Again will be monitoring this on course to see if I miss left with the new irons.
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The 9 iron in the Apex 19s is 38.5* and the T200s is 39*. Like the PW when looking at this data the T200s where not higher in every category. The ball speed, club speed, and descent angle were higher however the spin was a tad lower but roll out was the same. I picked up some good yardage again which is nice not being a long hitter. Again I don't have any doubt that this will stop on the green. I had one shot a Dormie with this 9 iron and it zipped back to a couple inches and almost went in for a gimmie. The dispersion is similar with the two clubs but the same as the GW and PW the 9 iron Apex 19s is 2* upright and in the T200s I got them at standard lie. Again will be monitoring this on course to see if I miss left with the new irons.
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In summary I am liking what I am seeing from the new irons while a lot of the numbers are close I am picking up some carry yardage which is nice for not being a long hitter and still have the stopping power I am used in the 9-GW. I can say when hitting the Titleist T200s in the center of the face it fells so pure and better than the Apex CF 19s which I thought would be hard to beat. I am also loving the feeling of the graphite shaft. I feel like I can tell where the club head is more and where I miss on the head better as well. I did start hitting a few shots with the 7 and 8 to see if the yardage was longer and it absolutely is. Will be interesting to see the numbers on those as well as when I move into the T350s in the 4-6 irons.
Let me know your thoughts or if you have any questions on anything or want to see any other type of testing with the new clubs. Should be able to test a couple more this weekend and get some results up.
Very interesting that you are finding the distances between the sets so close. Distance was one reason I went with the t-150's over my i230's, the 150/200's got me my distance back that i was losing with the i230's. Could have been a shaft issue in my case.Here's the Arccos data for approach shots from this season with my previous clubs (Ping i230) and the recent 4 rounds I've played so far using these new Titleist T200 irons. There are some obvious data limitations due to small sample size with the new set of irons, but this reinforces my impression that the T200s are playing more accurately for me in a way that absolutely means better scores.
In real play I did not see the big distance gains suggested at my fitting. So with roughly equivalent distances, the jump in GIR is pretty significant and the proximity to the pin when GIR is going to have a big impact on shots gained by taking some pressure off the putter. (And this was while playing more difficult courses than usual.)
i230 5 iron: avg 166yds, 37% GIR, 89' to pin, 30' to pin when GIR
T200 5 iron: avg 168yds, 17% GIR, 170' to pin, 15' to pin when GIR
i230 6 iron: avg 169yds, 37% GIR, 96' to pin, 28' to pin when GIR
T200 6 iron: avg 169yds, 50% GIR, 70' to pin, 20' to pin when GIR
i230 7 iron: avg 156yds, 38% GIR, 74' to pin, 27' to pin when GIR
T200 7 iron: avg 157yds, 57% GIR, 65' to pin, 34' to pin when GIR
i230 8 iron: avg 144yds, 37% GIR, 77' to pin, 35' to pin when GIR
T200 8 iron: avg 145yds, 50% GIR, 36' to pin, 18' to pin when GIR
i230 9 iron: avg 137yds, 43% GIR, 51' to pin, 27' to pin when GIR
T200 9 iron: avg 142yds, 67% GIR, 33' to pin, 25' to pin when GIR
i230 PW: avg 127yds, 51% GIR, 49' to pin, 24' to pin when GIR
T200 PW: avg 124yds, 100% GIR, avg 18 to pin, 18' to pin when GIR
i230 GW: avg 107yds, 52% GIR, 55' to pin, 25' to pin when GIR
T200 GW: avg 106yds, 50% GIR, 104' to pin, 14' to pin when GIR
Love these T-series irons!
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