Callaway Epic Forged Irons

[alexped2393]

I just couldn't work out those lofts, I'd be easily 2 clubs longer than my current with them launching higher as well. As I de-loft my irons a fair bit already.

I know it shouldn't matter what number is stamped on the bottom but it really does to me. If you want specialised wedges you essentially need a 46, 50, 54 & 58.

So you've got

putter
58
54
50
46
wedge
9
8
7
6
5
4 @ 18* Which is more like a 2 iron

Then you have driver and something else.

Just takes up a lot of clubs if you want half decent wedge options at the bottom end of the bag.

Saying that I think they look pretty good even though they aren't what I'd normally go for and the shaft options are something I'd be interested in if I wanted the '4' iron

 

[TRA024]

Not sure if commented but one interesting thing looking at the spec sheet and the length of the clubs is that the 8i = 37 inches which in a "traditional" iron = a 7i. Combine that with the loft 31.5 and we are really looking at a 7i and not an 8i?

These in any case look really good, and based on the Golfbox on course review these have very good stopping power. If I'd get one of these it would be 6 - AW which really to me would be same as 5 - PW.

 

[dacatalyst41]

Interesting review by Golfbox showing a lot of check on some softer greens. Literally checking up and sometimes even spinning back. It's great to see the tech from recent Callaway irons making it in to these as well and expanded upon. I'd say most amateurs will be thrilled with these once they recalibrate their bag distances.

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[JohnSinVA]

I’ve put a ton of thought into this today and I really want to hit them but isn’t Callaway going on a limb here? Doing something new at a high price is dangerous if it doesn’t work (as in people might not try it next time). Although it could be huge if it works and sets the tone going forward.

I really think I’m over thinking it at this point.

IMHO, not really. They've committed to the R&D and these are the ultimate expression of that. Offering them up to the public just helps speed up the process of getting that return.

 

[BigDill]

The more I learn about these irons the more I want a set. I cannot wait for my wife to ask me what I want for Christmas....

 

[JMB3]

These irons look and sound amazing. I'm very impressed (equally so with the number of reviews Jman has been pumping out!).

 

[mikeg_74]

Interesting review by Golfbox showing a lot of check on some softer greens. Literally checking up and sometimes even spinning back. It's great to see the tech from recent Callaway irons making it in to these as well and expanded upon. I'd say most amateurs will be thrilled with these once they recalibrate their bag distances.

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That's one thing I was noticing. The descent angle is pretty impressive with these. Lets me believe through the bag holding greens won't be an issue and brings in the fun of findings shafts to help you maximize play ability.

 

[radiman]

I suppose one of the most exciting things about this release for me, and it has been mentioned earlier, is the trickle down effect. This technology can be used in future releases. So, maybe these aren't the best fit for everyone based on the lofts (yet to be seen how that plays out in the real world, could be a non issue). But, some of this stuff could potentially make its way into more traditionally lofted clubs. I for one, am really looking forward to hearing some real world reviews. Withholding final judgement until I see how they play for me and everyone else. I am hoping they have demos locally.

 

[JB]

I suppose one of the most exciting things about this release for me, and it has been mentioned earlier, is the trickle down effect. This technology can be used in future releases. So, maybe these aren't the best fit for everyone based on the lofts (yet to be seen how that plays out in the real world, could be a non issue). But, some of this stuff could potentially make its way into more traditionally lofted clubs. I for one, am really looking forward to hearing some real world reviews. Withholding final judgement until I see how they play for me and everyone else. I am hoping they have demos locally.

We saw this quite a bit with the previous Epic lineup and how it has made it's way into their other designs. Concept car like in thought, with a bit more functionality.

 

[mikeg_74]

We saw this quite a bit with the previous Epic lineup and how it has made it's way into their other designs. Concept car like in thought, with a bit more functionality.

Doc Hoc and his crew are mad scientists and I fully trust there is a method to the madness, lol

 

[dacatalyst41]

I suppose one of the most exciting things about this release for me, and it has been mentioned earlier, is the trickle down effect. This technology can be used in future releases. So, maybe these aren't the best fit for everyone based on the lofts (yet to be seen how that plays out in the real world, could be a non issue). But, some of this stuff could potentially make its way into more traditionally lofted clubs. I for one, am really looking forward to hearing some real world reviews. Withholding final judgement until I see how they play for me and everyone else. I am hoping they have demos locally.

I'm interested in seeing how the bag fitting goes in regard to the bolded statement. Based on reviews I've seen, the irons are flying higher than the same iron with an "industry standard" loft on them. Does this mean that maybe it creates a scenario where "loft traditionalists" may see the performance (launch & spin) of a higher lofted club in a club that has a lower number on the hosel? I think the set wedge performance will be critical to determining where specialty wedges play out. Fun stuff! Maybe these aren't for everyone, but they may be a great option for more people than most perceive at first glance. Time will tell.

 

[KEV]

I just couldn't work out those lofts, I'd be easily 2 clubs longer than my current with them launching higher as well. As I de-loft my irons a fair bit already.

I know it shouldn't matter what number is stamped on the bottom but it really does to me. If you want specialised wedges you essentially need a 46, 50, 54 & 58.

So you've got

putter
58
54
50
46
wedge
9
8
7
6
5
4 @ 18* Which is more like a 2 iron

Then you have driver and something else.

Just takes up a lot of clubs if you want half decent wedge options at the bottom end of the bag.

Saying that I think they look pretty good even though they aren't what I'd normally go for and the shaft options are something I'd be interested in if I wanted the '4' iron

But does that really matter? If you're gaining two clubs worth of distance that means that you can possibly drop a wood or hybrid from the top of the bag. Ultimately it should work itself out.

I'm admit that I've thought negatively about gaining so much yardage as lofts change but now I realize it works itself out and now I have an opportunity to be more creative with my wedge setup.

 

[radiman]

I'm interested in seeing how the bag fitting goes in regard to the bolded statement. Based on reviews I've seen, the irons are flying higher than the same iron with an "industry standard" loft on them. Does this mean that maybe it creates a scenario where "loft traditionalists" may see the performance (launch & spin) of a higher lofted club in a club that has a lower number on the hosel? I think the set wedge performance will be critical to determining where specialty wedges play out. Fun stuff! Maybe these aren't for everyone, but they may be a great option for more people than most perceive at first glance. Time will tell.

That's my understanding on the necessity for them to lower the loft on designs like this. I agree on the wedge aspect. If I hit these and pick up a club across the bag, then I would have to add another wedge. But, it would probably allow me to drop a club off the top end too. So, in that regard, I would be just fine with it. As long as distances are gapped out and manageable, then I don't care what number is on the bottom of the club.

 

[JB]

I'm interested in seeing how the bag fitting goes in regard to the bolded statement. Based on reviews I've seen, the irons are flying higher than the same iron with an "industry standard" loft on them. Does this mean that maybe it creates a scenario where "loft traditionalists" may see the performance (launch & spin) of a higher lofted club in a club that has a lower number on the hosel? I think the set wedge performance will be critical to determining where specialty wedges play out. Fun stuff! Maybe these aren't for everyone, but they may be a great option for more people than most perceive at first glance. Time will tell.

Its called #LoftPeeping : )

 

[alexped2393]

But does that really matter? If you're gaining two clubs worth of distance that means that you can possibly drop a wood or hybrid from the top of the bag. Ultimately it should work itself out.

I'm admit that I've thought negatively about gaining so much yardage as lofts change but now I realize it works itself out and now I have an opportunity to be more creative with my wedge setup.

what would you put between driver and 18* 4 iron? You have one club left in the bag and at 18* loft with it not being stretched back like a hybrid no matter what technology is in there it's never going to be as high launching as a comparable hybrid or wood.

 

[radiman]

what would you put between driver and 18* 4 iron? You have one club left in the bag and at 18* loft with it not being stretched back like a hybrid no matter what technology is in there it's never going to be as high launching as a comparable hybrid or wood.

Do you even need the 18* 4 iron in that scenario? Do you currently have a 2 iron in the bag that would be getting dropped? I think that is his point. I think in that scenario, you would probably just drop the 4 iron all together, or it would replace a hybrid.

 

[McLovin]

But does that really matter? If you're gaining two clubs worth of distance that means that you can possibly drop a wood or hybrid from the top of the bag. Ultimately it should work itself out.

I'm admit that I've thought negatively about gaining so much yardage as lofts change but now I realize it works itself out and now I have an opportunity to be more creative with my wedge setup.

i agree with you on the top end, but the bottom end is often the hardest part


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[alexped2393]

Do you even need the 18* 4 iron in that scenario? Do you currently have a 2 iron in the bag that would be getting dropped? I think that is his point. I think in that scenario, you would probably just drop the 4 iron all together, or it would replace a hybrid.

Playing devil's advocate mind.

With what I put being a 'standard' set whats the point in having a 4 iron available at such a low loft if so many people who this club is targeted at won't be able to launch it anyway.

 

[radiman]

Playing devil's advocate mind.

With what I put being a 'standard' set whats the point in having a 4 iron available at such a low loft if so many people who this club is targeted at won't be able to launch it anyway.

That is yet to be seen.

 

[alexped2393]

That is yet to be seen.

I'd put a good lump of money saying that most people fit into these irons will not have optimal numbers with that 4 iron and are better off going into the new epic flash hybrid or something of that ilk around the 22* loft point and below

 

[Snickerdog]

For me this would be 5-AW then jump to the specialty wedges. That way the top of the bag still stays Driver, 3W, and 5W, and run 50,54 and 58 on my wedges.

 

[mancest]

in looking at the specs, and in some of the reviews what people are getting distance compared to their current clubs... why not just change the name on the soles of these clubs?

To me the 46* wedge is basically a PW, a 41* is a 9I, from what I can see they would still be as long or longer than pretty much any similarly lofted club on the market?

At some point I will test these, and if I pulled the trigger I would probably go 7-GW with an Epic Flash 5H

 

[KEV]

what would you put between driver and 18* 4 iron? You have one club left in the bag and at 18* loft with it not being stretched back like a hybrid no matter what technology is in there it's never going to be as high launching as a comparable hybrid or wood.

That would all depend on what my yardages are. My normal 4 iron would be around 200 yards but if this new set brings me up to 215-220 that replaces my 3 hybrid or 5 wood that I would normally play. That leaves the open spot to a 3 wood like I normally play.

Again it all depends on distances though. There could certainly still be a gap at the top I have to somehow figure out, it's just hard to speculate without hitting them.

 

[McLovin]

in looking at the specs, and in some of the reviews what people are getting distance compared to their current clubs... why not just change the name on the soles of these clubs?

To me the 46* wedge is basically a PW, a 41* is a 9I, from what I can see they would still be as long or longer than pretty much any similarly lofted club on the market?

At some point I will test these, and if I pulled the trigger I would probably go 7-GW with an Epic Flash 5H

i can’t answer for sure, but i would assume because the angle of descent and overall flight approximates the expectations for the lofts chosen, even if carry and total distances are substantially longer


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[alexped2393]

i can’t answer for sure, but i would assume because the angle of descent and overall flight approximates the expectations for the lofts chosen, even if carry and total distances are substantially longer


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When you say angle of descent do we mean? What makes an angle of descent steeper?

Is it a mixture of spin, peak height and launch angle?

Either way, the technology being put into these clubs are insane, especially the tungsten bit. I'm going to watch some review videos tonight if I can find them