DonJuan
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Low compared to...If this story is true, and Kuch didn’t feel like he deserved 10%, which is fine, let’s be honest, 5k is a little on the low side.
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Low compared to...If this story is true, and Kuch didn’t feel like he deserved 10%, which is fine, let’s be honest, 5k is a little on the low side.
Low compared to...
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Not just you. I expect that this story has caused Kuchar's reputation to take a hit with plenty of Tour players, Tour caddies, golf fans, golf industry people etc....
From a pure golf perspective, Kuchar winning for the first time in 4 years is relevant. Obviously, the local caddie was a significant help to Kuchar's performance.
? It’s not like Kuchar has been irrelevant for four years with no wins. If anything quite the contrary. This hasn’t hurt his reputation whatsoever with 98% of the golfing world.
Plus....everyone just assumes he’s a bazillionaire. No one has any idea what he does or doesn’t need that extra money for. Could be medical, could be personal, could be anything really and to just blindly accuse him of basically being a Richard is reckless at best. Just like the caddie has his rights......so does Kuch for whatever reason he decides.
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So you think Kuch's win can attributed to a caddy who probably didn't even help him (Depending on the account you listen to)?
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Compared to common sense and decency
Let’s see I have not won in 4 years I put a local on my bag and win 1.2 million You darn right I am taking care of the guy!!!!!
Before Mexico, it had been 4 years , more than 100 starts, since Kuchar won a Tour event. Obviously, the local caddie was significant help to Kuchar's play.
Remember, sometimes the most effective caddie is the one who says the least.
I don't know that it's obvious. If the caddie helped, then I would see it differently though. I don't see the win drought as that big of a deal considering how often he finishes near the top. It was bound to happen.Before Mexico, it had been 4 years , more than 100 starts, since Kuchar won a Tour event. Obviously, the local caddie was significant help to Kuchar's play.
Remember, sometimes the most effective caddie is the one who says the least.
Being rich has nothing to do with it.
Half percent (yes half of 1 percent) for winning to a caddy just blows my mind. I realize I am in the minority here but this is just wrong to me
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It's just so tough, man. We all grew up with different values with different backgrounds. Tipping for a lot of Countries is not a necessity it's uncommon. Giving the guy almost double his pay (for a lot of people) is probably too much, others just enough, and the rest too little.
Here's my follow up; If you were to win the lottery for 600 million dollars would you tip the clerk who sold it to you? They had just as much of a role as you did in winning (maybe slightly less). Would you give them a full percent? At what point does "a percentage of" not apply? 1.5 billion?
So if you were picked out of a crowd and given a caddie job at a pga tournament, do you think you deserve the exact same amount then other professional caddies make on a weekly basis?
Cause, if my employer randomly picked a guy out and put him in my job, paid him the exact same amount and expected him to perform the same as I did, I’d start to think my employer was nuts. Could someone come in with limited knowledge and make some assessments and manage things for 6 days with out any formal perspective of what should or shouldn’t be done? You think an employer should just blindly pay people the same amount and not have it be based on experience and your track record of success?
That sounds like a quick and easy way to go out of business. Just my two cents which is probably only worth a penny lol
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Actually I would tip the clerk. And all my friends would love me winning the lottery
If i was randomly picked and my guy won I might say I was pretty good haha
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Hahahaha what if he didn’t ask you a single question cause you speak only Chinese and Your tour pro is French.
I get your point. Just playing devils advocate
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I think most would, but that's not my question. Would you give him 6 million if you won 600 million? At what point does the percentage stop playing a factor, and can we respect that for most people that number is different?
I would probably be the wrong person to answer this, as I would give out approximately 50% of my winnings after taxes. Family, friends, school, employees, and yes I would give about 3 million to the clerk that sold me the winning lottery ticket. It’s no fun winning that kind of money if I can’t share it with those around me. Plus, if I ended with say 100 million cash net after giving to everyone, then I think I could survive very nicely on a 100 million the rest of my life.
For me, percentage of my winnings would always apply. Why wouldn’t it? The more I win the higher a percentage I probably give.
Actually I'd say you're the perfect example. You already split my 10% sample in half and I'd say you're about the most generous person I've ever seen haha!
“I’m so happy, full of emotion,” the 40-year-old El Tucan told reporters, according to TheCaddieNetwork.com. “We were very solid to achieve our objective. We went step by step, getting more birdies.”
The victory earned Kuchar $1.23 million winner’s check, raising the human ATM’s on-course career earnings to just over $45 million despite having only eight Tour victories. While the check is undoubtedly nice for Kuchar, the caddie’s cut means much more.
El Tucan is in line to take 10% of that winning purse, according to normal caddie-player protocol of 5-7-10 (5 percent of a check for a made cut, 7 percent for a top-10 finish and 10 percent for a win). However, arrangements are handled entirely on a case-by-case basis and with a one-week partnership, there may be some slight variations.
“I think he’s flying; I think he’s en route to Australia,” Kuchar said when asked if he had heard from his normal looper in the aftermath of the victory. “I’m sure John’s disappointed not to have worked this week. He’s a great caddie. John does a fantastic job. I look forward to getting back with him next week. I’m excited for El Tucan, sorry for John.”
TheCaddieNetwork.com reported that El Tucan was in line to receive “somewhere in the neighborhood of 2 million pesos,” which is the equivalent of just under $100,000.
That big payday isn’t going to tempt El Tucan to change his day job, however. The father of two said he plans to invest some of the money he earned on Kuchar’s bag into a business.
Amazing that a local guy got that. Though based on my two year experience, that's not always the case with all web.com tour players.Last years winner received 121k
A local guy was on trainers bag and made 22k I saw the check
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