Hamfist
I promise not to murder Canadan.
My blanketing Cuyahoga county with the stench of my golf game. And the Browns won, a most embarrassingly inept win.
Trying to Break 100
dthrog00
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I haven't posted here in quite a while. Our golf season in northern IL has been over for about 2 weeks now. I've been working on a golf cage project for use in my garage described in more detail here: https://www.thehackersparadise.com/...tting-net-and-mat.8909361/page-2#post-8976296
I splurged on a Flightscope Mevo and it has really opened my eyes:
1. Throughout the bag the carry I've been planning against and what the device is giving are about 10 yards difference. I've probably been pulling the wrong club when hitting into receptive greens.
2a. I haven't been very shy about expressing my opinion that iron choice doesn't matter very much. It does not appear to affect my score much, but it absolutely does matter in keeping ball speed when you mishit the ball. The ancient G15 irons I have are better than my other irons in my hands at least with consistent ball speed.
2b. I cannot see any data to support the idea that spring face irons, in my case 718 AP1s, are offering any distance benefit because of the face technology. The distance gain appears 90+% driven by loft.
3. I really need to improve my distance. This 120 mph with driver ball speed thing kind of sucks. My launch conditions are ok though @ 16* launch and 2900 spin.
4. I played a "simulated" round today. Basically I took my carry and a reasonable rollout and worked against the score card of a course I play often. In 11 approach / par 5 advancement shots only 1 of them missed my carry target number by more than 10 yards and it was a 4 wood. If I can do a better job of pulling the correct club I have potential to score much better.
Dave
I splurged on a Flightscope Mevo and it has really opened my eyes:
1. Throughout the bag the carry I've been planning against and what the device is giving are about 10 yards difference. I've probably been pulling the wrong club when hitting into receptive greens.
2a. I haven't been very shy about expressing my opinion that iron choice doesn't matter very much. It does not appear to affect my score much, but it absolutely does matter in keeping ball speed when you mishit the ball. The ancient G15 irons I have are better than my other irons in my hands at least with consistent ball speed.
2b. I cannot see any data to support the idea that spring face irons, in my case 718 AP1s, are offering any distance benefit because of the face technology. The distance gain appears 90+% driven by loft.
3. I really need to improve my distance. This 120 mph with driver ball speed thing kind of sucks. My launch conditions are ok though @ 16* launch and 2900 spin.
4. I played a "simulated" round today. Basically I took my carry and a reasonable rollout and worked against the score card of a course I play often. In 11 approach / par 5 advancement shots only 1 of them missed my carry target number by more than 10 yards and it was a 4 wood. If I can do a better job of pulling the correct club I have potential to score much better.
Dave
ntanygd760
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What was the smash factor on the 120?
You have everything covered in lead tape, mate.
I tell you, #b100-ers, one look in Ben's bag and you would never play him for money. It's the bag of a Golfin' Man.
I mean, it was a shame it was on the 105 yard par 3, but a win is a win
Hey - I recognise that young fellow next to youOr certifiable idiot. The votes are being tallied...
We’re hardy fools in the Midwest...
Off today, so going to try to get 18 in. Playing somewhere different than my regular course. Last few rounds have been pretty rough, so hopefully I can keep it down under 100 today.
Ping irons + One Length hybrids. That's what you played your best golf with, that's what stays in the bag.
I have spoken.
I brought my clubs home with me when we went to the golf club yesterday for Sunday lunch as the course has been suffering with the weather
Probably going to end up booking a round on the sim as the forecast isn't getting any better for this week, so I don't see the course being open at the weekend, or if it is, it will be very soft and wet with all the rain we have had and not enjoyable at all
If not a round on the sim, I will head to the range that is 5 minutes from home
Probably going to end up booking a round on the sim as the forecast isn't getting any better for this week, so I don't see the course being open at the weekend, or if it is, it will be very soft and wet with all the rain we have had and not enjoyable at all
If not a round on the sim, I will head to the range that is 5 minutes from home
dthrog00
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The best I've had is 122.8 ball speed, 84.6 club speed, 1.45 smash, 16.8 launch, 2788 spin, 190 carry
If I recall correctly that one was middled.
Dave
What static loft, Dave? Just out of curiosity.
Hamfist
I promise not to murder Canadan.
Hone that game!!
Hamfist
I promise not to murder Canadan.
So let it be written, so let it be done!
Now, if you get an itch for new and shiny and goes far, wait a year and get some G410's or G700's, same spec as your current ones.
Consume!
Hamfist
I promise not to murder Canadan.
In a fit of pique, I swung by Golf Galaxy yesterday and swung some Cobra F-Max irons. They felt darn nice, and hit comparably to my Pings. But, I think the requirement for me to drop cash, is going to have to be a revelatory experience with another club.
Edit: the G700s are awesome looking.
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Sale of the F8's might take the sting out of that.
Aren't they, though?
#ihaveyounow #magpiemindset
I on the other am pondering about switching to OL. I hit my mid irons perfectly, long ones not so and tend to pull short irons, especially when fatigue kicks in. Not sure I would hit OL any better, but I couldn't blame the differing shaft length anymore ?
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Hey - I recognise that young fellow next to you
We were so bundled up that day, it was hard to discern anyone.
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Oof. I wish. 110 on a not terribly hard course. Couldn’t get a putt to drop to save my life, and I just made a pile of stupid stupid mistakes.
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dthrog00
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I have a few drivers. The data posted was for the Cobra F8 with a higher launching shaft (Tensei Blue 50) set to 10.5*D with weight back.
I found the Cobra F8 with Matrix VLCT ST at 9.5* and Taylormade M2 with stock shaft at 9.5 and both launch way too low. The F8 launched on average at 13.3 and M2 at 13.9. If your ball speed is 120-ish and misses launch around 10 you're in big trouble.
I have a K15 10.5* that is my old standby and it is another option, but has a little less ball speed than the F8.
I've been using the Flightscope trajectory optimizer @ https://flightscope.com/products/trajectory-optimizer/
and it is clear that at my speed launch is my friend for distance.
I did a "test round" on the Mevo yesterday with the F8 using one of the courses I typically play and I found:
Driver
| Shot | View | Ball Speed (mph) | Club Speed (mph) | Smash | Carry (yds) | Launch Angle V (°) | Spin (rpm) | Height | Time (s) | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 115.1 | 82.7 | 1.39 | 164 | 13.3 | 2595 | 47′9″ | 4.6 | delete | |
| 2 | 117.6 | 77.9 | 1.51 | 178.2 | 16.8 | 2848 | 71′3″ | 5.4 | delete | |
| 3 | 119.3 | 84.2 | 1.42 | 183.2 | 17.1 | 2071 | 69′ | 5.3 | delete | |
| 4 | 114.8 | 81 | 1.42 | 172.5 | 21.6 | 3815 | 98′6″ | 6.1 | delete | |
| 5 | 117.7 | 82.3 | 1.43 | 170.1 | 12.7 | 3534 | 54′7″ | 5 | delete | |
| 6 | 115.1 | 83.6 | 1.38 | 164.1 | 12.8 | 3402 | 50′10″ | 4.8 | delete | |
| 7 | 116.5 | 81.5 | 1.43 | 176.5 | 17.9 | 3150 | 77′9″ | 5.6 | delete | |
| Avg | 116.6 | 81.9 | 1.42 | 172.6 | 16 | 3059 | 67′1″ | 5.3 | ||
| Dev | 1.6 | 1.9 | 0.04 | 6.7 | 3.1 | 555 | 16′7″ | 0.5 |
Consistent contact was an issue. Drives #1, 5, and 6 were clearly off the bottom of the face with low launch and high-ish spin. Drives #2 and #3 were both well struck. I think there was a swing speed measurement issue on #2.
Dave
Hamfist
I promise not to murder Canadan.
Shiiiiiinnnnnnyyyyyyyy!!!Sale of the F8's might take the sting out of that.
Aren't they, though?
Hamfist
I promise not to murder Canadan.
I, too, have honed my game to a razor’s edge. This will be a clash of titans.
I like to think I am honing my game as well, but I keep slipping and adding nicks to the blade ??